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02-20-2016, 07:09 PM
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Trump declared the winner early on.
He leads by 12 points with 19% reporting.
Tight race for second between the Rube and the Cruz.
Kasich, Bush, and Carson appear headed for single digits.
They are dead men walking, now the question is where do those voters go?
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02-20-2016, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Trump declared the winner early on.
He leads by 12 points with 19% reporting.
Tight race for second between the Rube and the Cruz.
Kasich, Bush, and Carson appear headed for single digits.
They are dead men walking, now the question is where do those voters go?
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I can't see them going to Cruz. The reason you side with Kasich, Bush or Carson is that they are relatively moderate.
Obviously, Cruz is not...
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02-20-2016, 07:46 PM
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52% reporting.
Trump still leads by 12.
Still a tight race for 2nd between Rubio and Cruz.
The rest of the pack way back in "Dead Men Walking" territory.
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02-20-2016, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Trump declared the winner early on.
He leads by 12 points with 19% reporting.
Tight race for second between the Rube and the Cruz.
Kasich, Bush, and Carson appear headed for single digits.
They are dead men walking, now the question is where do those voters go?
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My guess is that supporters of Kasich and Bush would go to Rubio since that is where the smart money is going. Lot of pressure from same group on Bush to take a hike while Kasich folds up his tent. Carson supporters should gravitate to Trump and Cruz will suck some eggs.
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02-20-2016, 09:03 PM
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My guess is that supporters of Kasich and Bush would go to Rubio
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I agree and I believe that was the point of the donors pressuring Bush to quit. The donors want to support Rubio against Trump and Cruz, two people that they despise. I don;t think they're feeling all that good about Rubio though. He's proving himself to be temperamentally unsuited to the job and they know it. They just don't see an alternative.
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02-20-2016, 09:07 PM
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So, with 99% reporting, it's:
Trump 32.5%
Rubio 22.5%
Cruz 22.3%
Bush 7.9%
Kasich 7.6%
Carson 7.2%
How sad is that!
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02-20-2016, 09:32 PM
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So, with 99% reporting, it's:
Trump 32.5%
Rubio 22.5%
Cruz 22.3%
Bush 7.9%
Kasich 7.6%
Carson 7.2%
How sad is that!
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What do you mean sad?
I think it's awesome!
This is a sharp stick in the eye to the Republican establishment.
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Trump's resounding victory isn’t simply a boon to his prospects for winning the Republican presidential nomination, an outcome once thought impossible that is looking increasingly more plausible. It is also an embarrassing repudiation of conservative orthodoxy that has dominated Republican politics for decades. It suggests that the party's intellectual leaders, who organized the base around the National Review/Weekly Standard consensus -- small government, free trade, pro-Israel, deregulation, low taxes, social conservatism and an aggressive foreign policy -- have been generals of a phantom army.
The troops, instead, are marching with Trump, who bested his rivals in South Carolina by campaigning against nearly everything the Bush family, the Republican Party and neoconservatives who supported military interventions advocated for. Among his many breaks with the elite consensus, Trump declared that former President George W. Bush had lied about weapons of mass destruction to march the country to war; blamed Bush for the 9/11 attacks, arguing that he ignored intelligence community warnings; defended Planned Parenthood; boasted that he was the only Republican who would not cut Social Security or Medicare; said he approved of the individual mandate in Obamacare; and promised to slap onerous tariffs on companies who outsource jobs.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b041136f1725b8
TRUMP ÜBER ALLES!
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02-20-2016, 09:43 PM
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It's just more proof that shit floats.
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02-20-2016, 09:49 PM
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What do you mean sad?
I think it's awesome!
This is a sharp stick in the eye to the Republican establishment.
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Trump's resounding victory isn’t simply a boon to his prospects for winning the Republican presidential nomination, an outcome once thought impossible that is looking increasingly more plausible. It is also an embarrassing repudiation of conservative orthodoxy that has dominated Republican politics for decades. It suggests that the party's intellectual leaders, who organized the base around the National Review/Weekly Standard consensus -- small government, free trade, pro-Israel, deregulation, low taxes, social conservatism and an aggressive foreign policy -- have been generals of a phantom army.
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Except it isn't a repudiation of any of that. Most of those things are just dandy with Trump's supporters. They're drawn to Trump by the other stuff, the racism, the Islamophobia, the authoritarianism, the just plain meanness. They love these caricatures of everything they've always loved about Conservatism. They eat it up. They love it when Trump gives them permission to be hate-consumed brutes.
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02-20-2016, 09:58 PM
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Whatever Dudes. I'm sick of Politics as usual. I want to burn the house down. I prefer Sanders but it appears that he's not going to make it, so my second choice is Trump.
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