Causes of Crime

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

And your argument against that is that "it's not racism, it's because blacks are inferior to whites."

Look you moron. I am not talking about why.

I am talking about what will fix it.

And, what will never fix it. Never.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

All people who lives in ghettos commit crime at several times the rate of those who don't. Was true of Irish, and of Italians, for example.

But these groups got out of the inner cities eventually, while blacks have not. There are two basic theories about why this is:

1. It's them.
2. It's how others treat them.

This is another case where I think the either/or framing of the controversy is false. it's both.

I tend to agree DQ. But I'm still awaiting their rise and welcome it. I believe it's happening recent crap aside.

Pete

[ZeroJunk]

All people who lives in ghettos commit crime at several times the rate of those who don't. Was true of Irish, and of Italians, for example.

Because other people did it is not going to help blacks one bit.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

"Entitlement" is a racial codeword of the right.

You can run from that Finn, but you can't hide.

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnist...ure-real-issue

It goes both ways, TJ. Those on the left have their own code words, often accusing people of racism, homophobia, etc., for legitimate disagreement on issues. If you actually believe that liberal and conservative politicians (and their consultants) play from different rulebooks, I have a bridge to sell you. They'll do whatever works and codewords, negative advertising, etc. work.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Because other people did it is not going to help blacks one bit.

Anger, jealousy, greed and revenge are typical reasons that people commit crimes; unless one is a professional criminal (thief or a hit man) in which case it is a matter of choice.

So how do you go about convincing a young black person overcome these feelings, or the feeling of injustice that is prevalent. Just tell them they need to get over it and change?

[barbara]

Someone stated earlier that black kids commit more crimes than white kids.

I have to wonder if the statement should really be "the crimes of black kids get reported and prosecuted more than crime committed by white kids".

It has been my observation that those with financial resources and connections can easily get their child's 'crime' reduced to a slap on the hand or have enough influence for no charges to be brought up. Those kind of cases are not typically reflected in statistics.

I guess for this theory to be reasonable, one must assume that there are more low income minorities than low income Caucasians.

[sheltiedave]

I think we are missing out by not focusing on the dastardly evil that white collar crime represents. And is it based on entitlement as well? Is gordan gecco as evil as Michael brown?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

All people who lives in ghettos commit crime at several times the rate of those who don't. Was true of Irish, and of Italians, for example.

But these groups got out of the inner cities eventually, while blacks have not. There are two basic theories about why this is:

1. It's them.
2. It's how others treat them.

This is another case where I think the either/or framing of the controversy is false. it's both.

Truth spoken here.

The workforce at our plant is easily 90% black, there are virtually no black folks in upper management.

Some of these folks I work with have an excellent work ethic. I am especially impressed with the women who not only work full time, 12 hours a day in the humid, 110 degree summer heat and <20 degree winter cold, but take classes as well, while raising their kids with minimal to no help from state programs. It really is an untold story that people should hear. It definitely does not fit the narrative of lazy, welfare collecting baby factories.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

I think we are missing out by not focusing on the dastardly evil that white collar crime represents. And is it based on entitlement as well? Is gordan gecco as evil as Michael brown?

Well, you see, they are the "job creaters" so they have earned every penny. Even the pennies they have as yet to embezzle.

Dave

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

You didn't. You used a code word, "entitlement".

You're a fucking moron.

ANY sex, race, religion, creed, etc. can feel entitled to another's goods, property, bankroll, etc. This is, of course, what motivates the taking of it through any manner of nefarious means.

If you believe entitlement equals black, you're a racist.