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[merrylander]

I see that even the protesters in Cairo are holding up signs in support of the Wisconsin workers and commparing Walker to Mubarak, Hosni Walkker, it has a certain panache.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I see that even the protesters in Cairo are holding up signs in support of the Wisconsin workers and commparing Walker to Mubarak, Hosni Walkker, it has a certain panache.

We will eventually see if the "democracy" movement in the ME will be better or worse for human rights. I seriously doubt this is about ending honor killings, forced marriages, genitalia mutilation, and a toleration for those of different faiths.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Something must have changed since the late 80's then. Or maybe there are variances between states? I really haven't kept up with these things. So, at least it is a good thing that unions can send free riders a bill. Should have always been that way. I do recall at one time, word coming down in our union that if a free rider tried to demand representation that the local was to refuse unless the free rider agreed to join, and the international would back them up if it went to court. Because dirtbags were doing this all of the time. They would refuse to join, then demand to be represented when management stepped on their toes. Jerkoffs.

Dave

The situation I was describing was in states other than the right to scab states. In the right to scab states the unions are forced to represent the scabs. In worker friendly states, the workers may refrain from joining the union, but they must pay a representation fee if the union and employer agree to one. By declining to join the union, however, the fee payers lose the right to vote in union elections, including votes whether to accept a collective bargaining agreement.

By the way, right to scab states average around $72 per week in smaller wages.

Regards,

D-Ray

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by bhunter

We will eventually see if the "democracy" movement in the ME will be better or worse for human rights. I seriously doubt this is about ending honor killings, forced marriages, genitalia mutilation, and a toleration for those of different faiths.

Do we have some stereotypes working? You are particularly off the mark in Egypt, which has a much more secular population than, for example, Saudia Arabia, which is an autocratic/theocratic state. It is ruled by royalty, yet subject to strict muslim law. There is free speech about neither the government nor religion.

Regards,

D-Ray

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Do we have some stereotypes working? You are particularly off the mark in Egypt, which has a much more secular population than, for example, Saudia Arabia, which is an autocratic/theocratic state. It is ruled by royalty, yet subject to strict muslim law. There is free speech about neither the government nor religion.

Regards,

D-Ray

No stereotypes, but those things routinely happen under Islam. Islam lite is not Islam and the secularity of any country is only transitional in the eyes of Islam. How much clearer do proponents of Islam need to be. I hope that Saudia Arabia can keep their population in check. Of course, the Christians also have had their share of barbaric acts, but thankfully in the past.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bhunter

We will eventually see if the "democracy" movement in the ME will be better or worse for human rights. I seriously doubt this is about ending honor killings, forced marriages,

Both of these are exceedingly common in India as well. Why isn't the Right apoplectic about Hindus as well? I guess it doesn't fit their narrative (whatever it is).

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bhunter

We will eventually see if the "democracy" movement in the ME will be better or worse for human rights. I seriously doubt this is about ending honor killings, forced marriages, genitalia mutilation, and a toleration for those of different faiths.

We have some common ground. Jeffersonian Democracy in Libya? I'll believe that when I see it...........

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

The situation I was describing was in states other than the right to scab states. In the right to scab states the unions are forced to represent the scabs. In worker friendly states, the workers may refrain from joining the union, but they must pay a representation fee if the union and employer agree to one. By declining to join the union, however, the fee payers lose the right to vote in union elections, including votes whether to accept a collective bargaining agreement.

By the way, right to scab states average around $72 per week in smaller wages.

Regards,

D-Ray

Yep, and from what I have seen taxes are not very much lower, if at all. I know, here in VA, it's gotten ridiculous. So, what is it about making less in wages and paying out just as much, if not more taxes that appeals to people?
More jobs? Maybe so. Last I checked our unemployment rate was 7.8%. Better than the national average, but nothing to brag about, by my estimation.

BTW, our light rail project over in Norfolk is nearly completed. A month late and about $30,000,000 over budget.
That's that legendary Republican "fiscal responsibility" workin' it's mojo.

Dave

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Both of these are exceedingly common in India as well. Why isn't the Right apoplectic about Hindus as well? I guess it doesn't fit their narrative (whatever it is).

They haven't blown down our buildings Finn.

How about the NJ governor talking about 2 classes of citizens, the workers that get the crazy bennies, and the folks who pay for them?

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

They haven't blown down our buildings Finn.

How about the NJ governor talking about 2 classes of citizens, the workers that get the crazy bennies, and the folks who pay for them?

Pete

Yes, it's insane how the folks at, or near, the bottom are oppressing the wealthy in this country. Actually, I thought the Republcans didn't believe in class. That we're all in the same boat?

Dave