Benghazi attack - Terrorists or unruly crowd?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Kool Aid drinker(s)

This mother Fu*king piece of dog chit got on a plane and went to a fund raiser right after the attack...

If that dosen't make you look at this objectively nothing will.

If this was "W".... oh never mind.

If this was "W", what? He would have sat and listened to a story about a goat? Declared war on a country that had little or nothing to do with it? Run the country bankrupt fighting that war? All of the above?

[CarlV]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Kool Aid drinker(s)

This mother Fu*king piece of dog chit got on a plane and went to a fund raiser right after the attack...

If that dosen't make you look at this objectively nothing will.

If this was "W".... oh never mind.

Real classy.






This W?

The president's 35-minute Air Force One flyover of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama was the perfect metaphor for his entire presidency: detached, disconnected, and disengaged. Preferring to take in America's suffering -- whether caused by the war in Iraq or Hurricane Katrina -- from a distance. In this case, 2,500 feet.

Apparently, the president "sat somberly on a couch on the left hand side of the presidential jumbo jet peering out the window" at the catastrophe below, joined at different times by White House staffers including Karl Rove and Scott McClellan. McClellan later quoted the president as saying, "It's devastating. It's got to be doubly devastating on the ground."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...of_b_6566.html

On the subject of Katrina, Bush also writes about another now-infamous folly - when he declared FEMA Chief Michael Brown was doing a "heck of a job," even as key supplies had yet to reach the Superdome in New Orleans while thousands remained stranded.

Bush was in Mobile, Alabama, at the time, meeting with the Alabama and Mississippi governors. He asked them if they were getting adequate federal support.

"'That Mike Brown is doing a heck of a job,' Bob said," referring to Alabama governor Bob Riley. "I knew Mike was under pressure and I wanted to boost his morale," Bush writes.

The president repeated Riley's words a few minutes later when he spoke to the press.

"I never imagined those words of encouragement would become an infamous entry in the political lexicon," says Bush. "As complaints about Mike Brown's performance mounted, especially in New Orleans, critics turned my words of encouragement into a club to bludgeon me."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-huge-mistake/




If not, never mind.

Carl

[BlueStreak]

Thanks, Carl. Apparently failures that took place when the GOP had control of the House, Senate and the Oval Office are just further proof that Democrats can't do anything right.............

Some people appear to have become completely detached from reality. The tricorner hat must fit a tad too tight.

Regards,
Dave

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by JBS...

In testimony, Charlene Lamb, deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security (the lady), was asked, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”


Lamb responded, “No, sir.”

But by all means let's not let the facts get in the way.



Maybe we should be looking at this administration priorities on how and where they spend the money.


"In a May 3, 2012, email, the State Department denied a request by a group of Special Forces assigned to protect the U.S. embassy in Libya to continue their use of a DC- 3 airplane for security operations throughout the country. …

Four days later, on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool’s new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State Department’s “Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe” initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies.

In fact, at a May 10 gala held at the U.S. embassy in Vienna, the ambassador showcased his new Volts and other green investments as part of the U.S. government’s commitment to “climate change solutions.”

While the embassy in Vienna was going green, the consulate in Benghazi was getting bombed, and little was done to stop it.
"

Monies taken from two different apportionments and in the strange way our government works funding of any department is not just one big pot. Security funding was cut by the GOP. The other "maintenance" funds may not have been. Dumb idea? Probably so ask your congress critter why it is done this way.

BTW under international agreements it is the host country's responsibility to guard embassies and consulates. If we start shooting foreign nationals regardless of the circumstance it would really hit the fan.

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Kool Aid drinker(s)

This mother Fu*king piece of dog chit got on a plane and went to a fund raiser right after the attack...

If that dosen't make you look at this objectively nothing will.

If this was "W".... oh never mind.

You are the Kool Aide drinker.

You like to post facts so I will post a few:

Excerpt from a Dana Milbank editorial in the Washington Post, October 9th.

"For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected.

Ryan, Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security."

Here is the link if you want to read the whole article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...2a7_story.html

The very same people that voted to severely cut the foreign service budget are the same ones hand wringing and launching expensive useless investigations now.

Oh, that airplane Obama hoped onto has the most sophisticated communications system in the world on board. Anything he could do at the White House he could do from that airplane called Air Force One.

Obama can multi-task unlike that moron Bush we put up with for eight years. If this had happened under Bush he would have curled up to read a good book like 'My Pet Goat' and just stare into nothingness like a deer caught in the headlights of the car that is about to hit it. The next day he would invade Iran.

[piece-itpete]

Love how Obie said during the second debate that he did say it was a terrorist attack immediately. Undercuts the lefts' argument here, no?

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Love how Obie said during the second debate that he did say it was a terrorist attack immediately. Undercuts the lefts' argument here, no?

Pete

How?

John

[piece-itpete]

That it WAS a 'spontaneous' thing-a-bobber? Which on the face of it is a crazy argument anyway, and his comment was ludicrous.

I agree that it is relatively minor, but his behavior through this whole thing is mystifying. Will you call him and tell him to clean this up?

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

That it WAS a 'spontaneous' thing-a-bobber? Which on the face of it is a crazy argument anyway, and his comment was ludicrous.

I agree that it is relatively minor, but his behavior through this whole thing is mystifying. Will you call him and tell him to clean this up?

Pete

As the facts are assembled, it's looking like it began as a more or less spontaneous demonstration, inspired by the one in Egypt. Then (probably) the Ansar al-Shariah used the demonstration as a cover for a guerrilla attack on the consulate. The guerrilla attack was also inspired by the video.*

So, what we have is an effort on the part of the Administration to keep the country informed on the situation, within the confines of national security considerations, when and as information became available.

The fact of the matter is NOBODY in the Administration EVER said anything which was incorrect. They just gave us the information piecemeal. The Right, especially Romney, chose to politicize the issue. If the Administration had waited until they had all the facts assembled before issuing a public statement the Right would have politicized that too by condemning them for their silence.

The Right plays the game SO dirty that it's a profound mystery to me that anyone supports you.

John

* Someone, I think it was MPHolland, recently pointed out that I said virtually the same thing at the time of the event, except, given the date and given that the Administration had just taken out yet another al Qaeda #2 who was Libyan, I wrongly assumed that it was an al Qaeda "anniversary party". It was a pretty lucky guess.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

That it WAS a 'spontaneous' thing-a-bobber? Which on the face of it is a crazy argument anyway, and his comment was ludicrous.

I agree that it is relatively minor, but his behavior through this whole thing is mystifying. Will you call him and tell him to clean this up?

Pete

Yeh, four dead is relatively minor? Call Faux would you and tell them it wasn't optimal..Do you always butter both sides?