The modern brownshirts in all their glory

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

I'm, a "classical liberal". I don't know what "liberal socially" means, though. FWIW, I was accused of being a leftist yesterday for my comments on the photoshopped biden photo.

I did come across this: https://www.socialliberal.net/2009/0...ial-liberalism

I could care less about what others do or how they live. Believe in healthcare for all as a human right. Believe abortion should be left to those who can get pregnant. Believe in a living wage and taxing appropriately. No loop holes or tax giveaways to build sports arenas or factories. Good and equal education for all!
Helping those less fortunate in general.

We were granted a life and all of what is has to offer. Choosing to make life one of helping others suffering over self enrichment. To me seems like a great way of paying back this opportunity.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

That looks like a rare and ancient Kwanzaa symbol. It's the wrong time of year for that, though.

For what it's worth, it wishes upon you a gameboy for Kwanzaa. Score!

Spoken like a true asshole. Empathy for the long-time poster, friend to many? Not a chance. Instead, condone brownshirt Trumpist bullies by making a stupid and race-baiting joke. You'll be cheerleading real Nazi violence pretty soon won't you?

[Chicks]

The cost of loyalty to Trump grows higher and higher
By Michael Gerson

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b9f_story.html

It is never enough for President Trump’s supporters to provide casual approval. The price of loyalty goes higher and higher.

Trump intuits that his base has made a mental accommodation without inherent limits. It takes various forms but involves one formulation: When everything good is at stake, all objections are trivial in comparison. With the identity of America at issue, X is insignificant. With the lives of unborn children on the line, Y is trifling. With the future of Western civilization in the balance, Z is inconsequential.

Over the past few days, the gravity of X, Y and Z has been further clarified. From reporting by Jeffrey Goldberg in the Atlantic, we know that the commander in chief regards Americans who lost their lives in battle as “losers” and can’t comprehend the nonmonetary motivations for military service.

This is more than a failure of patriotic ritual. Most concisely in the Gettysburg Address, Abraham Lincoln argued that a moral appreciation for self-government requires an understanding of the human cost of sustaining it. “From these honored dead,” he said, “we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here gave the last full measure of devotion.” By Lincolnian reasoning, Trump is indifferent to the fragile majesty of democratic institutions because he is impervious to the sacrifices on which they rest.

Yet, by the relentless logic of Trumpism: Because the American way of life is at stake, the symbolic desecration of every military grave is a minor matter.

Some insight into the disgusting thought processes of miserable filth like this Insane clown.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Spoken like a true asshole. Empathy for the long-time poster, friend to many? Not a chance. Instead, condone brownshirt Trumpist bullies by making a stupid and race-baiting joke. You'll be cheerleading real Nazi violence pretty soon won't you?

Projection. We are seeing real brownshirt activity right now. Have you not educated yourself on the history of the Nazi party in Europe? FWIW, I've been a student of the rise of Nazi Germany since I first became fascinated by their technology in, if I were to pinpoint a year, it would be 1968.

People seem to think that the brownshirts were an arm of the german government and they were gassing jews from day one. Nope. They were very much exactly, and I mean EXACTLY like antifa and blm in their early tactics. What drove that home for me was the "demanding" people in restaurants raise their fist in support of BLM, "or else".

Any student of history sees this. It's one reason a well educated country could never support this nonsense and, is likely to vote for whoever they are against. The CNN rubes, on the other hand, will feel, um, differently...

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Chicks

The cost of loyalty to Trump grows higher and higher
By Michael Gerson

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b9f_story.html



Some insight into the disgusting thought processes of miserable filth like this Insane clown.

Even in a cold civil war there are casualties. But I'll throw this out: Any other republican president would have pulled the Kavanaugh nomination at the slightest hint of the absurd accusations being hurled at him. Trump supported him to the bitter end. And your quote is opinion. One I pretty strongly disagree with, though there is some very creative and impressive molding of facts into, "something else".

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Spoken like a true asshole. Empathy for the long-time poster, friend to many? Not a chance. Instead, condone brownshirt Trumpist bullies by making a stupid and race-baiting joke. You'll be cheerleading real Nazi violence pretty soon won't you?

I've always enjoyed making fun of Kwanzaa, a completely made up and racist holiday. Heck, even Futurama made fun of it for the same reason.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oerets

I could care less about what others do or how they live.

I agree. I'm of the mindset that "your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins."

If BLM and Antifa agreed, we'd not have much to talk about.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Believe in healthcare for all as a human right.

I believe we all should be able to enjoy as much health care as we can afford.

I don't believe others should be forced to pay for mine, however. If I decide I want to live off McDonalds and shoot up every drug imaginable and smoke like a chimney, I believe I should be able to get the best health insurance I can afford and/or the best health care I can afford, but it's certainly none of the governments - or other people's - business, except for the health insurance company that is insuring me. They have a vested interest in how well I take care of myself, just like an auto insurance company has a vested interest in my driving record.

Health care is a commodity like everything else. If you want it, you pay for it. And if you don't have a lot of money, well, I'd eat my vegetables.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Believe abortion should be left to those who can get pregnant.

That all depends on the value you place on a human life. If I saw a full term fetus as just so many cells, I'd strongly agree with you. But I don't. I also know a lot of women that have had abortions. The psychological impact is slightly different than having your tonsils removed. It can be, and often is, devastating.

That's the challenge one faces when they take a human life to make their life more convenient. i.e. both sides see it as a "human rights" issue.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Believe in a living wage and taxing appropriately.

Well, the constitution sort of agrees with you. Our right to *pursue* happiness is protected. But the old biblical concept should still apply. You don't work? You don't eat.

Life is hard. The government making it a "free ride" doesn't magically fix that. That's why Cabrini Green had to be demolished.

But I do think a flat end user "sales" tax would be awesome as the only form of tax. And it couldn't be more fair. The rich would pay a lot, and the poor would pay little. But we would all chip in to preserve the government that does the modern equivalent of what ancient walled cities did to preserve civilization from the hordes.