Why BLM and Antifa are not credible

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

Watched the video from msnbc. Sounds opinion based to me. Are there not undercover cops, fbi, cia?

FBI pointedly not involved in the counter-protest stuff, as far as I know. Busy out busting real criminals, like the Republican Speaker of the House of my fine state of Ohio, CIA is, by law, not supposed to gather intelligence on Americans in America. Your assumption that the anti-protest action must have solid undercover evidence, which you actually don't know about, and don't even know who WOULDN'T provide it, is the very definition of 'opinion-based.'

Originally Posted by Waggs098

Identify with the protestors? No cause they don't distance themselves from the rioters.

Your choice. I'm much more upset about the destruction of the Rule of Law than I am about $40,000 damage to the courthouse, but that, I will agree is opinion-based.

Originally Posted by Waggs098

Start protesting now? Ok everyone in the country go out and protest ANYTHING you see wrong NOW.

That is called a straw-man argument. No one said to protest ANYTHING. We are protesting specific things: abusive policing, and rioting paramilitaries operating under color of law, but whose actions threaten the freedom of all Americans. Too bad you don't get that last part.

Originally Posted by Waggs098

People accustomed to violence? Is that what the rioters and looters are?

You keep saying 'rioters and looters,' but I say they are awfully thin on the ground in Portland. I say obviously the violent people are the ones beating on non-violent moms and veterans. People 'accustomed to violence' come in handy if you want people like that beat up.

[Pio1980]

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020...or-black-lives

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

Absolutely disgraceful

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...520161%3famp=1

So you must really hate this one, then...

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by Chicks

So you must really hate this one, then...

I would not put shirts like that on my kids or even wear shirts like that. In my opinion though having what looks like 6 year old or younger kids in the protests saying fuck the police is worse. The only thing that teaches the kids is all cops are bad.

[donquixote99]

Feelings are running a bit high these day. I'm all in favor of nuance and shades of grey. 'Fuck the cops' shirt should be modified to say 'Fuck at lot of the cops!'

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Feelings are running a bit high these day. I'm all in favor of nuance and shades of grey. 'Fuck the cops' shirt should be modified to say 'Fuck at lot of the cops!'

What percentage of cops do you think are bad?

[donquixote99]

Some are really bad, and will do things like sadistic violence or planting evidence A majority will, by custom and culture, do biased, aggressive, harmful things that fall outside the 'really bad' category. Just about all will not 'rat out' a fellow cop, even a really bad one.

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Some are really bad, and will do things like sadistic violence or planting evidence A majority will, by custom and culture, do biased, aggressive, harmful things that fall outside the 'really bad' category. Just about all will not 'rat out' a fellow cop, even a really bad one.

What percentage of citizens do you think are really bad? What percentage of citizens do you think would cover for another citizen?

What percentage of government officials do you think are bad? What Percentage of government officials do you think would cover for another government official?

What percentage of cops do you think are bad? What percentage of cops do you think would cover for another?

[donquixote99]

Lots, but it depends on circumstances. Ever read 'The Man Who Corrupted Hadleyberg?'

[BigElCat]

The tide may be turning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6voTf2qcTI

We're going to have a bunch of other stuff to worry about next.