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02-22-2016, 08:13 PM
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Is Hillary's candidacy worth discrediting the party and it's voters?
Hillary cannot win on her own merits, people keep mentioning her political career and what has she really accomplished other than capitalizing on her married name? She should go back to being a Republican where her tactics will be better accepted.
My used car analogy continues to be in effect.
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02-22-2016, 08:12 AM
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Bernie Sanders VS Hilliary
Hillary almost never gets it right the first time. We cannot afford for her to get it wrong just once - as president.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpm4rjejFgQ
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02-22-2016, 09:43 AM
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I have officially switched my allegiance to Hillary Rotinhell Clinton.
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02-23-2016, 02:45 PM
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Go to the Death Spiral thread you haters!
Hillary is gonna beat the bagger's choice like a drum!
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02-23-2016, 02:54 PM
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Hillary is gonna beat the bagger's choice like a drum!
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The Nevada caucuses show us what Hillary is prepared to do to win. The more things like this that surface, the more likely that Bernie supporters will stay home. That will hand the presidency to the Republican nominee.
And what don't you understand about the polling for head to head match-ups? If Hillary is the nominee, you'd better pray that Il Duce is the Republican nominee. He's the only one she beats. Bernie beats them all.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tial_race.html
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02-23-2016, 03:55 PM
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The Nevada caucuses show us what Hillary is prepared to do to win. The more things like this that surface, the more likely that Bernie supporters will stay home. That will hand the presidency to the Republican nominee.
And what don't you understand about the polling for head to head match-ups? If Hillary is the nominee, you'd better pray that Il Duce is the Republican nominee. He's the only one she beats. Bernie beats them all.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tial_race.html
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It is not a white electorate anymore. No way are Americans going to hand the White House to Trump. If Bernie can't beat Hillary then he is the reason why and no one else. Same would go if the opposite was true.
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02-23-2016, 04:01 PM
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If Bernie can't beat Hillary then he is the reason why and no one else.
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Perception is reality. The perception is that the DNC has had its finger on the scale for Hillary since before day one. Shenanigans like what happened at the Nevada caucuses only reinforce that perception. Accordingly, there is a very strong likelihood that Bernie supporters will stay home in droves is Clinton is the nominee.
Worse, it will alienate and discourage all the young voters flocking to Bernie. The result could be a generation of disaffected citizens with no expectation that their vote makes a damn bit of difference.
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02-23-2016, 04:05 PM
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What shenanigans, Boreas?
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02-23-2016, 04:11 PM
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Perception is reality. The perception is that the DNC has had its finger on the scale for Hillary since before day one. Shenanigans like what happened at the Nevada caucuses only reinforce that perception. Accordingly, there is a very strong likelihood that Bernie supporters will stay home in droves is Clinton is the nominee.
Worse, it will alienate and discourage all the young voters flocking to Bernie. The result could be a generation of disaffected citizens with no expectation that their vote makes a damn bit of difference.
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The perception is Bernie is a guy who is promising the moon and will not be able to get any of his programs through a ultra-conservative Congress.
If people are dumb enough to elect Trump because they don't like Hillary then that is their own stupidity. Like TJ I will be fine if he wins...I am a veteran.
Retired Navy. The correct last name. Born in Ohio. He won't touch me. Unlike Joad I care though.
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