The Affordable Care Act

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Despite the computer glitches, about 33,000 have enrolled in federal health exchanges in Oregon.

Regards,

D-Ray

That's a good link to keep an eye on D-Ray, definitely trust that over other sources.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

True, but I doubted that zero had signed up under the ACA, as was indicated. One hopes that there will be some recompense from the vendors who have not delivered the software that was purchased.

On the other hand, the numbers we are talking about are not expenditures, but investments. One does not expect such things as an investment in a computer/software system to pay off in the first few months and not even in the first few years. I just hope that the systems that are being put in place are readily convertible to a single payer system.

Regards,

D-Ray

Your right on systems taking time to mature and work though problems. I just can't understand why they didn't do it a year earlier. They as in all systems country wide could of had volunteers putting it though it's paces. All deletable info coded IP's so they can summit multiple forms. Something!

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Right on. Usually one expects to hear NO on just about everything from two year old's. I still remember the days when I used kid around with my then two year old daughter to say yes instead of no. Used to be hilarious, she would scream the word NO even louder.

So what comes after NO? When do the baggers start behaving like responsible adults?

Sadly, some will never grow up. Some will be spiteful, miserly and sour individuals throughout their whole lives and some I hope will find some sort of impetus to rejoin the human race.
My view is that they've been duped by some fairly despicable characters into believing that life is a zero sum game for those characters' own gratification and edification.

Chuck and Dave Koch are the leaders on that list.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Please, please run on single payer in 2016

Please, please run on repealing Obamacare in '14 & '16. Pretty please with sugar on it and a cherry on top.

[Rajoo]

One could conceivably run against the roll out and implementation of Obamacare. I expect most independents not to get too excited, since after all this is to be expected from all government programs. The Bay Bridge here cost 4X original estimates, 24 years in planning and years late. So what's new?

But defunding Obamacare would again alienate the very same Romney 47% and maybe even their extended families. So yes by all means. Dem's would be smart if they start calling ACA Romney-Obama plan. That would make the 47% pay real attention.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by JBS...

Please, please run on single payer in 2016

Not a great idea because Americans are too fucking stupid to go that way, even if it works in every other industrialized nation.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by mpholland

Yes, but not through the website. The website hasn't been functional yet, so none have enrolled through it.

And all of them designed and programmed by private contractors, does not say much for our software talents does it. Probably the same folks who did Windoze.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Right on. Usually one expects to hear NO on just about everything from two year old's. I still remember the days when I used kid around with my then two year old daughter to say yes instead of no. Used to be hilarious, she would scream the word NO even louder.

So what comes after NO? When do the baggers start behaving like responsible adults?

I am not holding my breath.

[whell]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

That's a good link to keep an eye on D-Ray, definitely trust that over other sources.

Or maybe the HHS's own numbers?

http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2...enrollment.pdf

Enrollments under health care reform are still waaaayyy skewed towards older (more expensive to insure) demographics, so the "under 30 crowd" is still not signing up in significant enough numbers to cover the anticipated claims costs.

Also, total enrollments are are just shy of 1.2 million at the end of January 2014. We still don't know how many are actually PAID enrollments, though the scuttlebutt in industry circles is that about 20% of enrollment remained unpaid even after the payment deadline was extended.

I notice that I still have no takers on a bet that I made a couple weeks ago here on the forum. I'll repeat is again here:

The administration's enrollment target for Obamacare to break even was 7 million enrolled by 3/31/2014. And that's PAID enrollments, by the way. I've been consistent stating that there's no way that target will be met. Anyone want to bet me that I'll be wrong?

Oh, by the way, the enrollment trends suggest that January enrollments slowed a bit from December 2013's enrollment pace.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Or maybe the HHS's own numbers?

http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2...enrollment.pdf

Enrollments under health care reform are still waaaayyy skewed towards older (more expensive to insure) demographics, so the "under 30 crowd" is still not signing up in significant enough numbers to cover the anticipated claims costs.

Also, total enrollments are are just shy of 1.2 million at the end of January 2014. We still don't know how many are actually PAID enrollments, though the scuttlebutt in industry circles is that about 20% of enrollment remained unpaid even after the payment deadline was extended.

I notice that I still have no takers on a bet that I made a couple weeks ago here on the forum. I'll repeat is again here:

The administration's enrollment target for Obamacare to break even was 7 million enrolled by 3/31/2014. And that's PAID enrollments, by the way. I've been consistent stating that there's no way that target will be met. Anyone want to bet me that I'll be wrong?

Oh, by the way, the enrollment trends suggest that January enrollments slowed a bit from December 2013's enrollment pace.

Of course. The young are immature and ignorant enough to think they don't need it. Most older people know better.

The Republicans bank on ignorance, immaturity and, at times, downright stupidity. It's what has sustained them for at least the last three decades.

Dave