Write-in Ballots for President

[GChief]

^^^ this

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[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Who would vote for Trump? Normal humans of certain sorts under certain conditions. When this many millions are in the category, they are normal, by definition. We do not have 74 million sociopathic monsters running around.

I'm gonna disagree with you here don...after what we learned on Jan 6th (which half of us already knew before Jan 6th)is that anybody who supports Trump, or what has become the party of Trump, has some observable psychopathology. The sociopaths are the ultra-wealthy, the rest are either racists, religious fanatics, or intellectually incompetent. So I agree 74 million of them are not sociopaths, but it's a minimum of them who are just stupid.

Here's something from Robert Reich that is pretty good...

Why Have So Many Americans Succumbed to Trumpism?

I don't believe Reich addressed the 1%er's sufficiently in this treatise, and he's specifically letting the racists and xenophobes off the hook, which is really fucked up. And to be honest, when it comes to the dopey Americans who feel like the "American Dream" has been stolen from them. IMHO instead of holding the mega-rich, the offshoring corporatists, the bankers, the insurance magnates, the Congress and the US legal system responsible going back to the 1970's when the economic "rigging" began, they're blaming it on black folks, LatinX, Muslims, and anybody else who managed to get in front of them in the food stamp line, who doesn't look like them. So yeah sure, they're stupid, but they're stupid bigots. And I believe I've addressed almost all of the "74 million". It's on the people...it's all on the people, it's always on the ignorant, self-indulgent, self-absorbed, people...who, in the case of this country, are getting exactly the government they deserve.

But it's likely we may still disagree on some or all of this.

PS - as I generated the last of this, I have probably contradicted myself a half-dozen times. It's difficult not to when one is on a rant.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Who would vote for Trump? Normal humans of certain sorts under certain conditions. When this many millions are in the category, they are normal, by definition. We do not have 74 million sociopathic monsters running around.

What is the common trigger in these 74 Million people. Cannot simply be their shared love for Trump, though that is a major factor. Would be interesting what folks here think their attributes are. I believe its White Nationalism which cannot be spoken in public, but can be expressed by their votes.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

What is the common trigger in these 74 Million people. Cannot simply be their shared love for Trump, though that is a major factor. Would be interesting what folks here think their attributes are. I believe its White Nationalism which cannot be spoken in public, but can be expressed by their votes.

A study back in the summer of 2016 showed that the most common trait among Trump supporters was their desire for authoritarianism.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by finnbow

A study back in the summer of 2016 showed that the most common trait among Trump supporters was their desire for authoritarianism.

As long as it is their side running things!

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

A study back in the summer of 2016 showed that the most common trait among Trump supporters was their desire for authoritarianism.

I dunno finn...it seems to me that the vast majority of hardcore Trump supporters don't know what the word means. OK...outside of maybe "having a white guy running everything".

[RickeyM]

I've written about this before. IMO the GOP has with a steady diet of negativity so radicalized their base that when tRump came along they, the base, took the reigns with both hands and took off at a full gallop. Once at full speed, or thereabouts, jumping off to the ground (facts) seems just to scary. So they dig in the spurs and ride on. Is that steed going to tire and stop or is it going to ride right off that cliff? Time will tell.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I dunno finn...it seems to me that the vast majority of hardcore Trump supporters don't know what the word means. OK...outside of maybe "having a white guy running everything".

FWIW, here is the article:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...tarian-213533/

From it:

In addition to the typical battery of demographic, horse race, thermometer-scale and policy questions, my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.

Based on these questions, Trump was the only candidate - Republican or Democrat - whose support among authoritarians was statistically significant.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

As excited as I was regarding Write-In 2024 project, looks like the OP wants out of this forum. Assume he ran out of insults.

http://politicalchat.org/showthread.php?t=14036

Y'know...I'm gonna say Write-in24 was a MAGAt who knows that he is in the minority and figures that every one of us who writes in a vote is almost as good as a vote for some goddamn seditionist.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

FWIW, here is the article:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...tarian-213533/

From it:

In addition to the typical battery of demographic, horse race, thermometer-scale and policy questions, my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.

Based on these questions, Trump was the only candidate - Republican or Democrat - whose support among authoritarians was statistically significant.

Makes perfect sense among the MAGA...authoritarian and they don't even know it. Ask them four questions and they're clearly authoritarian. Ask them "Are you athoritarian?" and their answer is, "Huh?"