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07-09-2012, 12:39 PM
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The only thing I have against the Prius is why did they make it so bloody ugly, was it designed by Hyundai?
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07-09-2012, 12:54 PM
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The only thing I have against the Prius is why did they make it so bloody ugly, was it designed by Hyundai?
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Actually, I find some of the newer Hyundai and KIA models to be pretty attractive in a highly "sculptural" way, far better looking than the Prius. The quality has gotten to be pretty damn good too.
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07-09-2012, 06:14 PM
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Actually, I find some of the newer Hyundai and KIA models to be pretty attractive in a highly "sculptural" way, far better looking than the Prius. The quality has gotten to be pretty damn good too.
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I agree, Hyundai makes some of the best looking and best running cars around with one of if not the best warranty in the car game.
Rob, If you've not driven the Hyundai Genesis then you do not know what you are missing. The Impalas will be up for sale once you do.......
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07-09-2012, 07:17 PM
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Actually, I find some of the newer Hyundai and KIA models to be pretty attractive in a highly "sculptural" way, far better looking than the Prius. The quality has gotten to be pretty damn good too.
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Originally Posted by Rex E.
I agree, Hyundai makes some of the best looking and best running cars around with one of if not the best warranty in the car game.
Rob, If you've not driven the Hyundai Genesis then you do not know what you are missing. The Impalas will be up for sale once you do....... 
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My only problem with these Korean imports is that they have pretty squishy suspensions. I guess they're emulating Buicks.
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07-09-2012, 07:29 PM
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My only problem with these Korean imports is that they have pretty squishy suspensions. I guess they're emulating Buicks. 
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Have you driven the Genesis? Might change your mind.
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07-09-2012, 09:26 PM
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Where I am currently residing is not conducive to growing anything edible. One of the reasons I don't plan on staying long 
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It might be. Check out what Yuma, Az. is doing... http://www.ag.arizona.edu/crops/coun...a/agstats.html
Yuma has probably doubled in veggy production since this was written.
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07-10-2012, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rex E.
I agree, Hyundai makes some of the best looking and best running cars around with one of if not the best warranty in the car game.
Rob, If you've not driven the Hyundai Genesis then you do not know what you are missing. The Impalas will be up for sale once you do....... 
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Not a chance, the Impalas have the best suspension of anything else out there. Maryland drivers give me a royal PITA because they brake at every curve. Of course with some of those rolling living rooms and their mushy suspension I guess I can't blame them.
Florence spent a number of years in the orient, let me just say that if I was foolish enough to come home with an Asian car she would likely set fire to it in the driveway. In any case I just don't like foreign cars.
As for Hyundai's famous warranty I worked with a guy who owned one. It had this nasty habit of burning out headlamps and leaving him in the dark on the road. Everytime he had it in the garage it was a three figure charge, some warranty.
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07-10-2012, 07:47 AM
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Maybe but.................
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Sea levels rising, stronger storms and drought. Wild fires going on almost all spring and summer. High temperature records breaking at ever increasing frequencies. If this last one was a occurrence in the norm. Then there also should be new records being for cold temperatures at close to one to one ratio. That is if we were in a stable environment model. But we are not the temperature is going up plenty of evidence to those who look.
I think people do not want to face the facts that our lifestyles is unsustainable. Someday hard choices will be made and I'm afraid the ones doing them will look back with discuss on all of us today!
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I've a basic problem with this, well two actually. First, is there any record of anything like this occurring over the same time period in say, the last 1000 years?
Second. Is it caused by us or not? It's an important question. If we're causing it we might be able to stop it getting any worse, maybe in the long term even reverse it but if it's not caused by us and is likely to carry on going no matter what we do, all I can think is that instead of trying like King Canute to prevent things that we can't prevent, we should be working out the best way to deal with the consequences. How to deal with political boundaries if previously cold areas warm up (frozen tundra in Siberia shows that at one time it had a temperate climate) and vice versa.
Incidentally. In the time of King Canute, kings were thought of as almost divine, all powerful. I've read that what he was doing was not to try to stop the tide coming in, but to show his Court that King or no King he could not prevent the tide coming in and implicitly that no one could. When it came in, instead of trying to prevent it, people had to figure out the best way to deal with the consequences.
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07-10-2012, 08:32 AM
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Incidentally. In the time of King Canute, kings were thought of as almost divine, all powerful. I've read that what he was doing was not to try to stop the tide coming in, but to show his Court that King or no King he could not prevent the tide coming in and implicitly that no one could. When it came in, instead of trying to prevent it, people had to figure out the best way to deal with the consequences.
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But... but... but that would leave us no time to jump up and down, scream and holler, gnash our teeth, and point fingers! What fun would that be, and what are we to do with all the carbon credits?
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07-10-2012, 08:53 AM
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We can't even stop what we're doing let alone reverse it. Checked out Kyoto performance lately? And that was just to slow the increase of greenhouse emmisions!
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... let me just say that if I was foolish enough to come home with an Asian car she wwould likely set fire to it in the driveway. ....
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