Global Warming?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Actually, I find some of the newer Hyundai and KIA models to be pretty attractive in a highly "sculptural" way, far better looking than the Prius. The quality has gotten to be pretty damn good too.

John

Originally Posted by Rex E.

I agree, Hyundai makes some of the best looking and best running cars around with one of if not the best warranty in the car game.

Rob, If you've not driven the Hyundai Genesis then you do not know what you are missing. The Impalas will be up for sale once you do.......

My only problem with these Korean imports is that they have pretty squishy suspensions. I guess they're emulating Buicks.

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by finnbow

My only problem with these Korean imports is that they have pretty squishy suspensions. I guess they're emulating Buicks.

Have you driven the Genesis? Might change your mind.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

I agree, Hyundai makes some of the best looking and best running cars around with one of if not the best warranty in the car game.

Rob, If you've not driven the Hyundai Genesis then you do not know what you are missing. The Impalas will be up for sale once you do.......

Not a chance, the Impalas have the best suspension of anything else out there. Maryland drivers give me a royal PITA because they brake at every curve. Of course with some of those rolling living rooms and their mushy suspension I guess I can't blame them.

Florence spent a number of years in the orient, let me just say that if I was foolish enough to come home with an Asian car she would likely set fire to it in the driveway. In any case I just don't like foreign cars.

As for Hyundai's famous warranty I worked with a guy who owned one. It had this nasty habit of burning out headlamps and leaving him in the dark on the road. Everytime he had it in the garage it was a three figure charge, some warranty.

[budgetaudio6]

hasnt the globe been warming since the last ice age? like come on people. Think Global Cycle. and forget human propagation in this matter!

[beej]

Climate change is a reality. We could go back and forth for days about the causes but the reality of it is indisputable. I think it is vitally important that we do whatever we can do to reduce our negative impact on the process.

[Oerets]

Considering that Ozone averages about 0.000004% of the atmosphere and we all know the effects it has over our lives. Then about 0.03 percent of the Earth's atmosphere consists of carbon dioxide which is increasing with the use of fossil fuels as we deforest the oxygen producing plants.

Like I stated before it is in the human nature to use up and move on. Done many times before but this it seems this one could be the last!

Liberal as I am, it seems I want to be "Conservative" when it come to the environment


Barney

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bhunter

Calculate that mass and divide it by the mass of the atmosphere. You'll find it only amounts to ~0.009% even with assuming oil was used at the current rate for the last 100 years and that all of its mass reached and stayed in the atmosphere.

Originally Posted by Oerets

Considering that Ozone averages about 0.000004% of the atmosphere and we all know the effects it has over our lives. Then about 0.03 percent of the Earth's atmosphere consists of carbon dioxide which is increasing with the use of fossil fuels as we deforest the oxygen producing plants.

I'd say you just got pwned, BH.

John

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'd say you just got pwned, BH.

John

I am not neccesarily attempting to argue against Climate Change, but merely to point out that the figure the OP posted in pounds, that made man's contribution appear large, is small relative to the atmosphere. That struck me as similar to what Mann did with his graph, namely, emphasize the magnitude of what he sought to show . Moreover, the system is complex and difficult to accurately model. BTW, the time scale also presents a problem. I'm well aware of the effect of trace gas amounts on changing the system. In the ozone case, there is not another competing gas that contributes significantly to increasing UV levels.

Here's a nice summary article on Greenhouse Gases and Global Warming and the probable relation between the gases.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...house-gas.html

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Then about 0.03 percent of the Earth's atmosphere consists of carbon dioxide which is increasing with the use of fossil fuels as we deforest the oxygen producing plants.
Barney

Unless I've forgotten or there is new data to change the fact, this is another great reason to grow weed across the world. One acre of marijuana produces the same amount of oxygen as seven acres of trees. Weed just may save all our lives if this is true.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

Unless I've forgotten or there is new data to change the fact, this is another great reason to grow weed across the world. One acre of marijuana produces the same amount of oxygen as seven acres of trees. Weed just may save all our lives if this is true.

Until it is smoked of course! So it must be eaten or made into a drink.



Barney