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Old 04-22-2016, 10:49 AM
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That Hillary has been campaigning for 10 years now to get to this point; barely winning over her opponent Sanders, tells me that her support is lukewarm. But that's a separate issue from voter disenfranchisement. I think the democrats are relatively new at disenfranchisement.
Barely winning? Clinton is leading by 235 delegates at this point.
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:52 AM
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I'm not alone.

There's a whole shitload of Bernie supporters out there that feel just the same way I do.
Genuine disgust with the candidate and now something new, the process is itself. The youth of this country is getting a great education in political chicanery as we practice it today. Let's hope there will be no Trump Democrats.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:20 PM
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Barely winning? Clinton is leading by 235 delegates at this point.
And how many of those are "super delegates"?

Take Wyoming where Sanders overwhelmingly won, but because of super delegates Clinton got more delegates than Sanders. He won by over 10% but she got what, 18 delegates to his 11. Is that the "lead" you speak of? A rigged system.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:24 PM
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Genuine disgust with the candidate and now something new, the process is itself. The youth of this country is getting a great education in political chicanery as we practice it today. Let's hope there will be no Trump Democrats.
Well, the youth of this country are already disgusted with our generation because of the shitty legacy we're leaving them, this is just part of that legacy. My hope is they will rebel and do what our generation was too greedy and disinterested to do.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:28 PM
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Bernie got his ass kicked regardless of Joadian proclamations. That's not disenfranchisement, it's what happened.

It's not a system that caused this result.
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Because the deadline was six months ago, long before I formed any such intent?
This is a big part of what's wrong with "the system." Closed primaries in a strictly two-party system are ludicrous.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:33 PM
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And how many of those are "super delegates"?

Take Wyoming where Sanders overwhelmingly won, but because of super delegates Clinton got more delegates than Sanders. He won by over 10% but she got what, 18 delegates to his 11. Is that the "lead" you speak of? A rigged system.
That's the pledged delegate lead. Sanders 1151, Clinton 1428
With the bought and paid for Super Delegates, Sanders 1189, Clinton 1930

What does not make sense to me is that if these Super Delegates have the votes to look after the 'good of the party' at the nominating convention, why do they declare allegiance before the elections? Maybe because they go to the highest bidder.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:35 PM
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This is a big part of what's wrong with "the system." Closed primaries in a strictly two-party system are ludicrous.
If all of us get paid for our votes (and why not?), this will become a level playing ground. Let's have a Citizens United II.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:38 PM
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OK, my vote is up for sale. Highest bidder wins.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:45 PM
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OK, my vote is up for sale. Highest bidder wins.
I may be talked into giving my vote away for free to a third party.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:46 PM
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I want one of those rich super packs to send me a check......
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