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06-09-2020, 05:51 PM
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With that first sentence I firmly agree. But I think we've succeeded in that arena better than any country on the planet - so far.
Regarding the second, no. It was not founded on the exploitation of others any more than any other country. Who built the railroads in the UK? Were those workers exploited. And how about how Japan treats the people of countries they conquer. And have you checked out the history of China, the various countries of the middle east, Africa, etc.
It is the human condition, only recently improved upon. We have a very long way to go, but we've also come a very long way. In most countries, the US being one of the best, if not THE best.
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What is the second best, third, fourth?
If looking closely at the way other advance societies handled their similar issues. It should be very apparent the USA does fall behind. Just take schooling as an example. I'm sure it is apparent the drastic inequities in school districts due to the use of property values in funding. Busing was a attempt at a solution. Not effective IMO.
As to the way this country was founded. Does not matter a hill of beans what other countries did or continue to do. This is a wrong committed and the need to address with a true accounting. There is a lot of wealth still in families and companies made of by the exploitation of others to this day.
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06-09-2020, 03:56 PM
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Der Fuehrer's deeply irresponsible conspiracy theory on the Buffalo man injured by police
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/polit...eet/index.html
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Trump appears to have developed this, uh, theory from watching a clip on the One America News Network, the Fox News of Fox News.
In the segment, footage is shown that suggests the man, Martin Gugino, 75, "was appearing to use common Antifa tactics" when he approached the officers." That tactic? Using his phone to "scan" police communication. The OAN reporter claims that Gugino was using police tracking software on his phone. But there's absolutely no way of telling that from the clip; what's on the screen of Gugino's phone is not visible. And he could just be gesturing with the phone. Again, there's simply no way of knowing.
What we do know is that Gugino was shoved, fell backward, hit his head and began bleeding. And that the officers did not stop to help him. And that he is currently hospitalized.
What we also know is that Gugino is a longtime activist and peaceful protester. There is no evidence that he is part of Antifa.
Given all of these facts, the level of irresponsibility here on display by Trump is off the charts -- even for him. While Gugino remains hospitalized, Trump is suggesting that this is all some sort of orchestrated fake. That the man "fell harder than was pushed." That he was "aiming a scanner." That it "could be a setup."
Trump is basing all of this conjecture off of a segment from a television report on a "news" network that is openly pro-Trump and whose journalists don't exactly live up to credo of being neutral and independent.
The person who did this segment on Gugino is named Kristian Brunovich Rouz, a man who, according to the Daily Beast, has worked both for OAN and Sputnik, a Russian government-controlled news wire service. (The intelligence community concluded that Sputnik played a role in the Russian meddling in the 2016 election.)
Chanel Rion, a White House correspondent for OAN, has promoted the debunked Seth Rich conspiracy theory and suggested the coronavirus was developed in a laboratory in North Carolina. She was also banned from attending White House press briefings by the White House Correspondents Association after she repeatedly broke rules regarding how many reporters were allowed in the briefing room. She continued to attend the briefings anyway, insisting she had been personally invited by the White House press secretary to do so.
That Trump not only believes that OAN is a credible network but takes its wild conspiracy theories and broadcasts them to his 80-plus million Twitter followers -- all the while denigrating and attacking actual independent journalism -- speaks to how far he is willing to go to promote his preferred political agenda.
Trump wants the story to be about Antifa, a group he has sought to designate as a "terrorist organization." He doesn't want the story to be about the use of excessive force by the police on protesters driven into the streets by yet another death of a black man at the hands of the police.
And so, Gugino becomes an Antifa plant, according to Trump. And the cops become wrongly maligned martyrs of the wild left.
But that isn't what the facts say. Not even close. And whether Trump believes it or not, the facts can and do matter.
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OAN - the sort of fake "news" source our resident idiot Trumpkins rely on for their "facts".
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06-10-2020, 09:47 AM
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Sean InsHannity Claims Trump Is Also A Victim Of Crooked Cops: ‘It’s Horrific’
Fox "News" host says it’s not the same as what happened to George Floyd, but “a bad cop is a bad cop.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sean-...b66095792b1181
ROFL
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06-10-2020, 09:49 AM
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Fucker Carlson Rails Against Elmo And His Dad In Bonkers New Rant
The Fox "News" host isn’t happy about “Sesame Street” characters explaining protests to children.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucke...b61417f817d4d2
Sigh.
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06-10-2020, 10:47 AM
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I didn't watch that but I think the notion of that would make a hilarious SNL skit.
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06-11-2020, 08:14 AM
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Fucker Carlson’s Fox "News" Show Loses Disney & Other Advertisers Over George Floyd Killing & Black Lives Matter POV
https://deadline.com/2020/06/tucker-...ce-1202956176/
Gee, I wonder how long the Pillow guy can keep funding this hatemonger?
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06-11-2020, 02:20 PM
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Lara Logan, the Fox ‘Investigative Journalist’ Who Keeps Falling for Antifa Hoaxes
Fox "News" has repeatedly used Logan to lend credibility to its “antifa” coverage, but she seems to have trouble distinguishing between hoaxes and credible information.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lara-l...-antifa-hoaxes
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President* Donald Trump and his allies have repeatedly claimed antifa is a shadowy group behind nationwide protests and the violence that occurred during some of them—even though the FBI found “no intelligence indicating antifa involvement” in the May 31 protests in Washington, D.C., and antifa is literally never mentioned in the DOJ’s first round of prosecutions. Nevertheless, Logan has been utilized by Fox to lend journalistic cachet to such allegations.
But a review of Logan’s reporting—both online and on Fox News—shows a clear pattern of repeatedly falling for obvious hoaxes and passing along eye-popping but completely unsubstantiated claims.
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Fox "News".
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06-13-2020, 03:47 PM
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Fox "News" publishes digitally altered and misleading images of Seattle demonstrations
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/media...est/index.html
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Fox News published digitally altered and misleading images on its website's homepage Friday that made a demonstration in Seattle, in which a group of largely peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters have occupied six city blocks, appear violent and dangerous.
The deceitful tactic was called out by The Seattle Times. The local newspaper reported that when it asked Fox News about the images, the network removed them.
Fox News' depiction of the demonstration mirrors much of right-wing media's attempt to portray it as menacing. Protesters have declared a small slice of Seattle an "autonomous zone" after clashes with authorities led police to evacuate a precinct. While there have been some sightings of armed individuals, the area has remained largely peaceful with people gathering for food, speeches, and movie screenings.
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Faux doesn't have its own fact checkers, obviously. Nor any journalistic standards.
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06-14-2020, 01:27 PM
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Faux News Earns Their Moniker
A couple of years ago a local Fox affiliate covered a BLM protest (in DC I think). It wasn't live but recorded and broadcast later. Somewhere between the recording and broadcasting a chant of "Killer cops belong in cell blocks" was altered to "Kill a cop - Kill a cop". One of the officers who was on the scene saw the broadcast and alerted the person organizing the protest. There was the on air apology to event organizers for the "error". The producer was suspended for a day. The reporter and cameraman were fired.
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06-16-2020, 07:47 AM
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Fox “News” falls for Monty Python joke in report criticising Seattle protesters
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9565506.html
ROFL. Too funny. “News” my ass.
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