Assault weapons

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Oerets

One never knows for sure what or how they will react when face to face with someone with a gun.

The one time I was faced down by a shoplifter with a pistol, as a security guard at Kmart in the 70's. Know if was over before I knew what happened. Tackled him and snapped his wrist and retrieved the pistol. No thought just instincts I guess, got in a bunch of trouble for this anyway....

A local PD Sargent told me back then, best to keep yours eyes down and mouth shut....


Now I don't pack as a rule. To many stories in the news of people pulling and flashing escalating to a killing here in the Derby City!

I'm not going to go thru my life afraid of my death. Don't want to happen yet know it will. Want a surprised look on my face when it does.

This happened to me three times...at a 7-11, a Target, and at the family service agency where I was a clinical counselor for 12 years.

So...one morning I drove up to this neighborhood 7-11 for coffee, and there's a police cruiser sitting out in front with two officers inside. I figure they're having donuts. So I get out of my car and start to walk in the direction of the door. I get about halfway there and one of the cops calls over to me, "I don't think you want to go in there, we got a silent alarm call." So I'm a little confused and I say something like, "So now what happens?" And this cop, obviously miffed says to me, "I'm not going in there, somebody might be armed." So, I went down the street to the White Hen Pantry. So I guess they didnt want to get shot so they waited out front to see if somebody else got shot before they did anything. Similar thing with a couple of cops outside the entrance to the Target...where it was just some mentally ill guy having a psychotic break. I knew the couple who managed the 7-11, they told me the next day that somebody accidentally hit the alarm button.

This also happened one time at the family service agency. I walked up to the front desk, and there's this cruiser that the staff said had been sitting at the curb out in front of the building for 10 minutes or so. The office manager asked me to go out there to see if they would tell me what was going on. The cops said they got a silent alarm call (one of the staff accidently hit the button) from our office and one of them asks me, "Is everything OK in there?" I still don't get it.

Many years later there was the Uvalde school shooting where the cops hung out in the hallway listening to the gunfire...when I heard about that, it didn’t surprise me one bit.

[Oerets]

I worked on the ramps at a few airports so was well aware of security measures. I never had a close call of physical violence. The Airport Police are pretty bad dudes. Remember them pulling unruly passengers off fights diverted in. Guns and Roses once was pulled off for a member pissing in the isle.

We could very well be the first responder to a upset passenger. I even worked in lost and found and everyone coming in was already upset.

Was lucky.

Did have guns fall out of luggage a few times in the bag room when I was in there.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by GChief

Yep, have this discussion at work all the time. Some in this thread have been in the one were I asked why the hate, you should be trying to change a few minds instead of spewing the hate as equally as the other team.

Well, when one of the sides in this culture war is the side of racism, bigotry, sexism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, xenophobia, democratized gun carnage, and anti-democracy sedition and fascism...it's gonna be pretty difficult to avoid some feelings of hostility.

[GChief]

Thought this was a good thread to show/talk about this. This is one of our local shops I have bought a few things from.

They do a weekly gun give away, this week's freebie. Pic is from their FB account, one of the places they advertise.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Well, when one of the sides in this culture war is the side of racism, bigotry, sexism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, xenophobia, democratized gun carnage, and anti-democracy sedition and fascism...it's gonna be pretty difficult to avoid some feelings of hostility.

You keep talking in extremes. Most of people on that team not like that. Those you fret over are the loud minority of gun owners and idiots. Let's hope they go away when the Don loses or goes to jail.

If not I am trained and not out gunned by them

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by GChief

You keep talking in extremes. Most of people on that team not like that.

The hell they are not. Republicans/conservatives are now broken down into two categories...

1. MAGA/Q-ANON hard liner/cult of personality types.

2. Republican politicians and Republican voters who are looking the other way. The politicians out of fear of the next primary. Voters who are a mix of racists, bigots, sexists, anti-Semites, homophobes, xenophobes, "rights and freedoms" gunner headcases, and anti-democracy seditionists and fascists. With some single issue anti-abortion zealots (my body/my choice types who don't provide the same for pregnant women), sovereign citizen millitia lunatics, and simpletons who believe liberals and democrats are all communists mixed in.

If you're looking the other way behind the cult of personality, so you get the abortion laws you want, or the gun laws you want, or the voter suppression you want, you're a member of the cult of personality.

They put Jesus on a cross
They put a hole in J.F.K
They put Hitler in the driver's seat
And looked the other way
Tonio K.

Well, I'm not going to point any moral,
I'll leave that for yourself
Maybe you're still walking, you're still talking
You'd like to keep your health.
But every time I read the papers
That old feeling comes on;
We're, waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Pete Seeger

The time has come to say "Fair's fair"
To pay the rent now, to pay our share
The time has come, a fact's a fact
It belongs to them, we're gonna give it back
Peter Garrett

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[Mark B]

I think a ban on sales of assault weapons is coming within a decade. Feds will have a buy back program for existing weapons, but there will be no confiscation of already registered weapons.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Mark B

I think a ban on sales of assault weapons is coming within a decade. Feds will have a buy back program for existing weapons, but there will be no confiscation of already registered weapons.

If that's all it's going to be, it's gonna be a waste of time.