I think they're lying. And I think they know it.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Well, we're talking in circles now. I mentioned before that you need to take things in their historical context, but as I havn't the resources to provide a study guide in that area and I suspect you're not inclined to do the research on it yourself I'll leave it at that.

I was pointing out that they didn't print a Koran, Tibetan Book of the Dead, etc, that they did indeed agree enough to decide on the Christian book for some reason.

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

Believe what you wish.

RC

RC, beyond "harrumph", I'd like to say that I don't post here just to hear the sound of my own voice. I try to engage people in a dialog and at least as much to learn as to "teach".

I want to hear your views and I want to believe that I'm open to persuasion if your views or anyone else's are sounder than my own. I would similarly hope that people with whom I might differ would give my views a fair hearing. Sadly, when someone absents himself from a discussion because he thinks he knows what someone else is about to say everyone loses.

Too many of these open forums end up as little more than echo chambers when one particular set of views becomes dominant and those with opposing views clam up or even just leave. I hope that doesn't happen here. There are many intelligent voices here with a wide variety of perspectives. I, for one, would like it to stay that way.

John

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

And hire a Chaplin for Congress.

Yeah, Congress sure can get "slapstick" at times.

John

[piece-itpete]

Lmao!!

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

They did agree enough to print the Bible!

Hey, Pete -

When you first claimed that the first book the government printed was the bible I didn't really comment on it because it was news to me. I figured I'd better inform myself about it before I did.

Anyway, I finally did check it out. Turns out you're not exactly right.

The matter relates to an act of the Continental Congress during the Revolution. Because of the war, there was an embargo on all goods coming from England. That included bibles.

Beginning in 1777, the Continental Congress entertained several resolutions for the purchase of thousands of bibles from foreign countries but nothing ever came of them. Finally, in 1781, a printer and bookseller in Philadelphia by the name of Robert Aitken petitioned the Continental Congress to certify his version of the bible which was already in print.

The Continental Congress agreed to certify them as accurate but declined his further requests to allow them to be published under their authority or to appoint Aitken as the official publisher of sacred texts.

So, our government never printed or authorized the printing of a bible. The Continental Congress, our "revolutionary council", never did either. All they did was certify as accurate an American bible that already existed.

John

[piece-itpete]

http://www.greatsite.com/ancient-rar...-picture5.html





The Chaplains of Congress, Dr. White and Mr. Duffield, made their report on September 10, 1782. Two days later, on the 12th, the Committee reported to Congress, submitting copies of both their request to the Chaplains and the Chaplains' report. The same day Congress approved the "pious and laudable undertaking of Mr. Aitken, as subservient to the interest of religion, as well as an instance of the progress of arts in this country," and recommended his Bible to the American people, graciously authorizing him to publish the recommendation "in any manner he shall think proper."

Note how many times schools are mentioned!

http://www.logosresourcepages.org/Versions/1st.htm

And 2 Chaps. I wonder why Jefferson didn't complain, hmmm.

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

http://www.greatsite.com/ancient-rar...-picture5.html

The Chaplains of Congress, Dr. White and Mr. Duffield, made their report on September 10, 1782. Two days later, on the 12th, the Committee reported to Congress, submitting copies of both their request to the Chaplains and the Chaplains' report. The same day Congress approved the "pious and laudable undertaking of Mr. Aitken, as subservient to the interest of religion, as well as an instance of the progress of arts in this country," and recommended his Bible to the American people, graciously authorizing him to publish the recommendation "in any manner he shall think proper."

Note how many times schools are mentioned!

http://www.logosresourcepages.org/Versions/1st.htm

And 2 Chaps. I wonder why Jefferson didn't complain, hmmm.

Pete

1782

The American Revolution ended in 1783.

... and it took the Continental Congress more than a year and a half to get around to making a decision on Aitken's petition: January, 1781 to September, 1782.

So, when did our government ever print a bible as you initially claimed?

John

[piece-itpete]

Ah yes, the Continental Congress was not representative of the people, and the basis of our government?

My mistake in claiming Congress authorized printing the 1st Bible was a misread on my part, they only authorized their official approval of the Bible to be published.

Pete

[Fast_Eddie]

Um, who cares?

They also owned slaves and didn't allow women to vote. Ya'll need to move on.

[piece-itpete]

Are you suggesting women should get the vote?

Next you'll be saying they should be able to drive too

Pete