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07-13-2012, 10:10 AM
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You didn't get the memo:
You're now supposed to refer to PPACA as Obamacare.
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I don't have a problem with the term at all. As people come to understand the overall good that it will do the term will reflect credit on the President.
I think it was a miscalculation on the part of the Republican message makers. They were trying to replicate the success of "Hillarycare" but that was only going to be successful as long as Hillarycare never became law and the Republican myths about it not disproved by experience.
I don't like "Pea Packa" (PPACA) though. Just doesn't sound right. It's not as bad as "Lie Heap" though (Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program,or LIHEAP).
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07-13-2012, 10:11 AM
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What, me worry?
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Whoa nellie.
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07-13-2012, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Right back atcha:
"Nearly the same number of people -- 11 million -- joined the program during the Bush and Obama administrations, according to Department of Agriculture records. Of course, the jump during Obama's tenure has come in only three years."
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Not the point I challenged you on.
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07-13-2012, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Also, are you familiar with West's service record? I'm not even a little surprised that you admire this screwball.
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Here it is for those who wish to see it.
See later post.
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07-13-2012, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JJIII
Here it is for those who wish to see it.
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Link?
From Wiki:
While serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence spe************************t about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[11] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[11] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted nor witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[11] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Hamoodi appeared to reach for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[11] Hamoodi was beaten by four soldiers from the 2/20th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[12] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head,[11] after which Hamoodi provided West with names and information, which Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[11] At least one of these suspects was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[11] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[11]
West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[12] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would act differently under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."
He sounds exactly like the type on non-thinking Neanderthals that the GOP worships.
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07-13-2012, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Allen West is a half crazy Right Wing Uncle Tom. He even accused President Obama of wanting to make us his "slaves".
"At a campaign event on Sunday in Port Saint Lucie, Florida, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) told voters President Obama wanted to enslave them with government programs. 'He does not want you to have the self-esteem of getting up and earning and having that title of American. He’d rather you be his slave,' West said, according to WPTV. This is hardly West’s first reference to slavery; back in February he called government programs 'the most insidious form of slavery.' In August 2011, he referred to himself as a 'modern-day Harriet Tubman, to kind of lead people on the Underground Railroad, away from that plantation into a sense of sensibility.'”
Also, are you familiar with West's service record? I'm not even a little surprised that you admire this screwball.
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Oh he's a Tub all right, we are not quite sure what off is all.
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07-13-2012, 11:08 AM
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AKA Sister Mary JJ
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Also, are you familiar with West's service record? I'm not even a little surprised that you admire this screwball.
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Here it is for those who wish to see it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_W...8politician%29
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07-13-2012, 11:09 AM
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Link? 
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Oops! I copied it but didn't paste it! Dang.
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07-13-2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
He sounds exactly like the type on non-thinking Neanderthals that the GOP worships.
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If I were a Neanderthal I'd be pretty offended right now.
(BTW, did y'all know that Neanderthals had an average cranial capacity, an indication of brain size, about 10% larger than modern Homo Sapiens? We don't know how their brains were organized so we can't draw any firm conclusions about intelligence but it's a pretty interesting statistic.)
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07-13-2012, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
If I were a Neanderthal I'd be pretty offended right now.
(BTW, did y'all know that Neanderthals had an average cranial capacity, an indication of brain size, about 10% larger than modern Homo Sapiens? We don't know how their brains were organized so we can't draw any firm conclusions about intelligence but it's a pretty interesting statistic.)
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I stand corrected. He's clearly not as smart as a Neanderthal. I'm steadfast in believing that's why Republicans like him though.
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