Woke... What does it mean?

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I read it. Here's the Cliff Notes. There's no conflict between DEI and merit. DEI says you should hire on merit. DEI just notes that unless you make some targeted effort, you don't. Without DEI, "people go back to hiring people who look like them." And they will be completely sure they are just hiring the best.

Affirmative action, or is it's known today DEI has been bastardized into non-qualified people hired only because of their race and we know which race that is. Back in the days of WW2 those in charge maintained that Blacks lacked the capacity or the brain power to occupy leadership roles or even to fly aircraft. Some of that thinking is still around in that minorities and women are hired without being qualified for the job at hand because, you know, "they just aren't".

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Affirmative action, or is it's known today DEI has been bastardized into non-qualified people hired only because of their race and we know which race that is. Back in the days of WW2 those in charge maintained that Blacks lacked the capacity or the brain power to occupy leadership roles or even to fly aircraft. Some of that thinking is still around in that minorities and women are hired without being qualified for the job at hand because, you know, "they just aren't".

Yep, a way DEI is sabotaged by prejudice.

[Pio1980]

The straight white supremacist bigots are winnng with the corrupt Supremes' thumbs on the scales, for now.
I'm still waiting for the first major Corp with a backbone to tell these extortionists to go eff themselves.

More major firms are dropping Human Rights Campaign’s LGBTQ+ rights report card amid anti-diversity backlash

https://fortune.com/2024/09/17/ford-...sity-backlash/

[Oerets]

As an avid student of human history. Can with confidence and some dismay say, humans will and continue to go with the least resistance. If easier to be passive and allow a bully with friends take over.

They will.

Most of the time will gladly help as long as they are in the group being effected.


Till to late…..


The best of us will see it coming and be there in the beginning!

[Oasis]

Originally Posted by cg1349

I can't believe all the wokesters in this group who are in favor of being woke.

So you all agree with perversion being pushed on our children in schools, movies, TV shows and even stores?

What a bunch of wokesters.

So where are the anti-wokesters?

This is a fine example of the term used incorrectly, to mean something it does not.

Edit: Oi! I see he was banned, I wonder why

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Oasis

This is a fine example of the term used incorrectly, to mean something it does not.

Edit: Oi! I see he was banned, I wonder why

Sock puppetry. It had more than one account.

[Oasis]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Sock puppetry. It had more than one account.

Yes noticed that, see those types on other platforms and they often have multiple accounts where they support and agree with themselves.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by cg1349

I can't believe all the wokesters in this group who are in favor of being woke.

So you all agree with perversion being pushed on our children in schools, movies, TV shows and even stores?

What a bunch of wokesters.

So where are the anti-wokesters?

Well, what happened to you?

They are all allowed back on X now, which is one reason why the tide is turning so strongly on cultural issue. Plus, wokeness is a bit like EV's. It sounds like a great idea until you actually implement it and you live with its good and bad attributes.

This is why older people usually don't embrace at new ideas that, on the surface, look great. They've been fooled a lot by "good ideas" when they were young. They are more cautious. This is why so many calls for Socialism, communism, Lyndon Larouche, you name it, are championed mostly by college kids. Well, it's one reason.

But the human brain is not fully developed until around age 25. People grow up. People think about the long term consequences of implementing ideas. They learn that before tearing down a fence it's a good idea to first investigate why it was put up in the first place.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oasis

Yes noticed that, see those types on other platforms and they often have multiple accounts where they support and agree with themselves.

The internet is changing every year. About 12 years ago I had two accounts on a site that allowed you to literally post anything at all. No language barriers, no limit on personal insults, etc. I posted just like I do today, but the vitriol I would get from other members was almost tangible.

So, for fun, I created a second account and used Firefox for one, and the windows browser for the other and yes, the two of us would agree with each other when arguing with the rest of them. Thing is, it was a political site and there were virtually no conservatives on it (we were all musicians).

I figured the second account would last for a day or so. It lasted months. And it was a lot of fun. Eventually the members caught on, but their ONLY evidence was that we were both conservative. They just couldn't believe there were two conservative musicians that both found this site. I was even careful to use completely different language with one compared to the other. Which is why the moderators didn't bother checking deeply.

But eventually they did. It wasn't hard. They both had the same IP address. Not to mention mac address. My punishment? They cancelled the second account and asked me not to do it again. Thing is, a site that is all one side is boring. You need multiple sides to keep the discussion interesting or it just becomes a comical silo. Kinda like Democratic Underground.

I'm a member of lots of political sites, but this is one of the few where I can discuss with people on the left in all their glory.

BTW, that musician's site eventually changed their rules and no longer allowed ad-hominem attacks nor foul language. And if you posted ANYTHING as a fact without adding, "IMO", you were required to post a link to a source that backs up your claim.

The first thing that happened was that over half the guys I was sparring with, after several warnings, were permanently banned. But the site had a wonderful banning policy. People were rarely permanently banned. Rather, they got a week, or a month, or a couple of months, depending on the "crime". It took multiple offenses before a person was permanently removed.

The exception was covid. They were trigger happy on that one.

It's important that the site I mentioned remain anonymous. I don't want to comment on any named site's moderation. I don't think that serves anyone.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Sock puppetry. It had more than one account.

I was banned a few weeks ago from a Christian site because they accused me of being a sock puppet. I'd actually never heard the term before in reference to anything but an actual sock puppet. I had to look it up.

The comical part? After my open heart surgery 18 months ago, after my recovery progressed enough, I started getting on the computer again and was looking for a good Christian site. I found theirs and became a member. I was a member for over a year before I got the banning.

But the thing is, the site disagreed with a lot of my beliefs and you could sense bristling in the background to some of the things I said (I'm a believer in CI rather than ECT)*

Finally, I got the banning. It was very hard to respond since I couldn't even log in to log out. i.e. I could not access the site. So I had to use another browser where I'd never logged in. They were adamant.

So, I looked up the site name in one of my 20 gmail accounts and, sure enough, I used to have another account there - banned over ten years ago. But obviously a lot had happened in my life, and they had chanced their software so they didn't look the same, so I did not know that it was the other account. Oh, and the other one had been banned because they took a stronger opinion back then on people that believed what I did. i.e. it was the reason I was banned back then.

So, in other words, like a cop pulling you over for a dim license plate light, the old banning was a pretext to get rid of the guy that, though with evidence and politely, disagreed with some of their beliefs.

*ECT vs CI: Eternal Concious Torment vs Conditional Immortality
https://www.jewishnotgreek.com/