Ms. Parker brings the claws out

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

...and with that, noone turns back the clock to the 17th century, where the government gets to determine which religious beliefs are appropriate and which are not.

Forgive me if I still do not get this, both Georgetown and American U are public institutions are they not?

This crap is one of the reasons we left the church, although sometimes I think they left us. The institution has become far more important than the message. Nowhere in the New Testament can I find wher Jesus asked for these magnificent houses of worship. I do seem to recall Him asking us to care for the poor and sick. I don't recall where He asked to abuse young children, rather He said summat about sending them to Him. The Bible does make reference to a Generation of Vipers and Whited Sepulchures though.

[whell]

Originally Posted by noonereal

That is what you dolts want isn't it?

Really? Tell me this, noone. Did you take a look at Ms Fluke's prepared statement? Let me help you, here it is:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...%20hearing.pdf

Bear in mind that she's reading this, invited by Congress and no doubt read by members of Congress before she made her statement, in a Congressional Hearing. A congressional hearing staged by Dems. She and by extension the Dems are taking to task a private religious institution for its religious beliefs.

Where is the outrage from our left-leaning friends who are so strident in their defense of civil liberties? These are members of Congress acting in their official capacity challenging the religious beliefs of a private religious university.

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Forgive me if I still do not get this, both Georgetown and American U are public institutions are they not?

Nope.

"Established in 1789, Georgetown is the nation’s oldest Catholic and Jesuit university. Drawing upon this legacy, we provide students with a world-class learning experience focused on educating the whole person through exposure to different faiths, cultures and beliefs. ****With our Jesuit values and location in Washington, D.C., Georgetown offers students a distinct opportunity to learn, experience and understand more about the world."

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

Really? Tell me this, noone. Did you take a look at Ms Fluke's prepared statement? Let me help you, here it is:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...%20hearing.pdf

Bear in mind that she's reading this, invited by Congress and no doubt read by members of Congress before she made her statement, in a Congressional Hearing. A congressional hearing staged by Dems. She and by extension the Dems are taking to task a private religious institution for its religious beliefs.

Where is the outrage from our left-leaning friends who are so strident in their defense of civil liberties? These are members of Congress acting in their official capacity challenging the religious beliefs of a private religious university.

Whelly. when you gonna learn to think, not parrot ideologues?

[whell]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Whelly. when you gonna learn to think, not parrot ideologues?

When are you going to learn that your trite tesponses don't evidence much in the way of intelligence?

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

Nope.

"Established in 1789, Georgetown is the nation’s oldest Catholic and Jesuit university. Drawing upon this legacy, we provide students with a world-class learning experience focused on educating the whole person through exposure to different faiths, cultures and beliefs. ****With our Jesuit values and location in Washington, D.C., Georgetown offers students a distinct opportunity to learn, experience and understand more about the world."

You left off this bit;

In 2008, Georgetown spent $143 million on research, ranking it 111th nationwide.[61] In 2007, it received about $14.8 million in federal funds for research, with 64% from the National Science Foundation, National Institutes of Health, the United States Department of Energy, and the Department of Defense.[62] In 2010, the school received $5.6 million from the Department of Education to fund fellowships in several international studies fields.[63] Georgetown University Medical Center received an additional $118.4 million from these and other government sources.[62] Georgetown's Vincent Lombardi Cancer Center is one of 41 research-intensive comprehensive cancer centers in the United States, and developed the breakthrough HPV vaccine for cervical cancer in 2006.[64]

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

AFAIK Georgetown is the only law school hereabouts.

Naw. She could have gone to Catholic University.

Actually, George Washington has one, as does George Mason and UMd.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

Liberals on the other hand are sick, they have a sexual addictions, a drug addiction, an alcohol addiction ...

It sounds to me like you're talking about Limbaugh here.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

Really? Tell me this, noone. Did you take a look at Ms Fluke's prepared statement? Let me help you, here it is:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...%20hearing.pdf

Bear in mind that she's reading this, invited by Congress and no doubt read by members of Congress before she made her statement, in a Congressional Hearing. A congressional hearing staged by Dems. She and by extension the Dems are taking to task a private religious institution for its religious beliefs.

Where is the outrage from our left-leaning friends who are so strident in their defense of civil liberties? These are members of Congress acting in their official capacity challenging the religious beliefs of a private religious university.

It was good of you to provide the link so that it was easy to see how badly you distorted the words of the young woman. She is taking to task an institution, providing a service in the secular market, which has chosen to interfere with the benefits provided by her self-funded insurance plan. The opposition to contraception was so strident that it overlapped into interference with non-contraceptive medical treatment.

Why is the request for an exemption from an otherwise universal requirement for health care plans, when the exemption is based on the religious nature of the institution, not a First Amendment violation in itself?

Regards,

D-Ray

[finnbow]

Whether or not Ms. Fluke should properly be characterized as a liberal patsy or whether or not you agree that GU's health plan should include contraception, this does not make her a slut or prostitute who should post sex videos on the Interwebs.

This issue has elicited a number of viewpoints from the public and impacted institutions. Those with whom I disagree aren't, on this basis alone, whores and pornographers. Hearing people rationalize this debasement of our civil discourse is nearly as bad as what Rush's initial statements.