Hate the Man, Hate the Message, Or Hate the Loss

[Noogies]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Kamala was a weak candidate. I knew that from the time Tulsi knocked her out in her first attempt. Moreover in public interactions she seemed to lack a measure of gravitas.
Anyhow from the exit polls the economy was a central factor.

I'm with you right up to the thing about the exit polls and the economy. This was always fairly transparent as a lame rationalization whenever it was cited as a motivation for a Trump vote. These people were mostly smart enough to know that the economy is largely pretty good, and if it isn't working for them personally, well, that's likely not Joe Biden's fault.

Rather, the Trump vote, in most cases, was never about anything more than making woke liberals cry.

And those who chose that path will be happy regardless of the economic consequences of their choice because they got everything they wanted on November 5th.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by icenine

Mock oral sex with a microphone is gravitas?

These MAGAnauts deserve the government they're going to get - good and hard, sans lube.

None of the rest of us deserve this shit. Still not going to break bread with these shitferbrains QAnon dipshits...

Other than that, how the hell are you, Robbin? Long time, man.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I'd like to know why seemingly rational people disliked Trump's first Presidency? His stances are boilerplate conservative IMHO. He certainly never did anything that one could construe as Fascist. In fact, conservatism is just the opposite. Unfortunately, the proper term is Liberalism, but that's something else the left has stolen in their march forth to debase the great liberal tradition.

BTW, I used to post here regularly about 12 years ago and always found it enjoyable. Sadly, for me, it became too time consuming because of the salient arguments put forth by respondents. Anyway, those that may recall those days, thanks.

Hey, Brent. Good to see you over here. Make sure your Nomex G-string is up to snuff.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Not true about a woman candidate: Hillary got the popular vote by 3 million.
She lost because she and her handlers failed to comprehend the electoral vote system and campaigned lightly in the rust belt. Just a couple thousands more votes in the belt and she would have been over the hump...voila-the first woman president.

Kamala was a weak candidate. I knew that from the time Tulsi knocked her out in her first attempt. Moreover in public interactions she seemed to lack a measure of gravitas.
Anyhow from the exit polls the economy was a central factor.

Muslim men voted for Trump. Hispanic men voted for Trump.
To understand this better look up Afghanistan and the word Machismo.

Besides the irony of American political system of late (TV era?) is that presidential candidates select weak partners; Quale, Bush Sr., Gore, Pence and Harris (Walz) are prime examples. And when the presidency ends, they are magically elevated to top ranked status which never made any sense to me. Yet some never make it through the primaries if they are ever tested.

Combine misogyny with the historically weak VP nominees and Harris lost. She never had a chance, though she out-raised money 3:1. Chances are that even the black men skipped voting for her though she her chosen identity has always been a mystery to most despite attending Howard University.

[Noogies]

Here's something I noticed that never got mentioned in the run-up to the election: notwithstanding Kamala's weaknesses as a candidate, absent a president's death in office, a sitting vice president has only been elected as president once (Bush I) since the turn of the 20th century.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by bobabode

These MAGAnauts deserve the government they're going to get - good and hard, sans lube.

None of the rest of us deserve this shit. Still not going to break bread with these shitferbrains QAnon dipshits...

Other than that, how the hell are you, Robbin? Long time, man.

Thanks Bob I am fine....
Waiting for my first Social Security check in December lol.
I hope the next four years will not be awful. I didn't know the Trump nightmare was on the installment plan....

I hope you have been well. Are you still listening to your Magnavox 6V6 amps?
I got mine down off the shelf and have some new Ruby 6V6s coming in the mail soon. I haven't played the amp in about 8 years so I will have my fire extinquisher nearby lol. In the meantime I have purcased a Decware SET flea amp and have been enjoying that the last 2 years.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by icenine

My take on the first Trump administration was to look at what Trump did legislatively rather than all the nonsense generated by his rhetoric...althought I will not discount the true evil he did by separating families at the border.

That occured during the Obama Admin.

He basically got a tax cut through that benefitted his fellow billionaires,

BTW, eneryone's taxes went down. It didn't help the so called billionaires as much as the middle class. Billionaires today are mostly supporting the democrats and their schemes to dominate.

he modified NAFTA instead of destroying it, and funded the COVID vaccine development...which was fortunate in that if the anti-vax hysteria had started
earlier he might not have done it.

Are you "free trade" or not? The Anti-Vax movement predates the Trump Administration by multiple decades. It was born of the pro-nature movement that really started with the left back some fifty years; namely, in California.

This time he could be more dangerous because he believes he has a mandate.

I wouldn't characterize it as a mandate, but he did win the popular vote. Walk down a street in SF, Los Angeles, or San Diego and tell me what a great job the democrats have done. It's bordering on absurd.

Hopefully age and declining mental accuity will dull his ability to get evil things done.

What evil has he actually done?

A lot of the economic inequality that has made those Trump supporters upset about their situation began to be instutionalized in the 1980s...I guess they expect Trump to wave a wand and set prices lower on 22 January.

Oh, it's all Reagan's fault. No the fault belongs to the idiot democrats that started it after the 2000 election.

My take is that the Republicans will hook the billionaires up with another huge tax cut while throwing scraps out to the poorer voters who elected him.

But most billionaires supported the democrats and not Trump. Harris spent three times as much as Trump and had the media on her side.

One thing to watch out for...he won the popular vote, and more votes in Democratic states...does Trump still go after those populations like he did in 2016 by viewing them as the enemy...or does he start to look at those people as actual constituents. That will determine what is going to happen.

Trump's enemies are illegal aliens, criminals, and corrupt politicians. DEI, Transgender, and the other assorted radical social positions espoused by the left are best handled by the courts and are mere destractions.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Hey, Brent. Good to see you over here. Make sure your Nomex G-string is up to snuff.

Thank you. I really miss this forum. That said, it was and is so time demanding that I doubt I'll be able to post much. BTW, I saw that Finnbow is still around, but I was wondering about Merrylander? Finnbow's Alsatian sausage recipe that he posted I still make.

That said, I did notice it's a trifle hotter here than it used to be.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Not true about a woman candidate: Hillary got the popular vote by 3 million.
She lost because she and her handlers failed to comprehend the electoral vote system and campaigned lightly in the rust belt. Just a couple thousands more votes in the belt and she would have been over the hump...voila-the first woman president.

Kamala was a weak candidate. I knew that from the time Tulsi knocked her out in her first attempt. Moreover in public interactions she seemed to lack a measure of gravitas.
Anyhow from the exit polls the economy was a central factor.

I concur on both. Hilliary ought to have listened more to her husband wrt to the campaign and Kamala was a poor choice. Biden, as much as I hate the man, would likely have done better. BTW, I've disliked Biden since the 1980s BS. A liar, plagiarist, and vindictive asshole is Biden's character. Thank God only a few more months of this cretin at the Resolute Desk.

[Noogies]

Originally Posted by bhunter

That said, I did notice it's a trifle hotter here than it used to be.

Hmm ... I wonder why that would be ...?