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08-31-2022, 05:07 PM
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Doesn't hurt my feelings a bit.
Your characterization is flawed. Sandy Berger "stole". Clinton's handling of confidential material was deemed negligent, not gross misconduct. As far as I know, Trump's folks were cooperating with the FBI. Then, the raid.
I'm sure we've not heard the complete story on this, but I doubt seriously there was "theft" or "stealing". Hell, the FBI was there months before the raid and knew what was there.
And what exactly did Trump lie to the FBI about regarding these records?
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Read the filing from yesterday by the JD and one of the points they have brought up is obstruction, specifically Trump did not allow complete access to the FBI during their previous visit. Does that sound like cooperation?
Read: DOJ's response to Trump's special master request
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/31/11202...special-master
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08-31-2022, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
Read the filing from yesterday by the JD and one of the points they have brought up is obstruction, specifically Trump did not allow complete access to the FBI during their previous visit. Does that sound like cooperation?
Read: DOJ's response to Trump's special master request
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/31/11202...special-master
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That’s the claim the FBI made. This is the same FBI that claimed the Russians had video of prostitutes peeing on a bed. The Trump team is claiming that the docs were declassified, or that some docs are subject to Exec Privilege.
So, we’ll see.
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08-31-2022, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
That’s the claim the FBI made. This is the same FBI that claimed the Russians had video of prostitutes peeing on a bed. The Trump team is claiming that the docs were declassified, or that some docs are subject to Exec Privilege.
So, we’ll see.
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Incorrect response, it should be "we'll stall".
I guess in the Magaworld, a sworn statement to a court is suspect. OK, I get the drift.
Trumpian logic, "I won the election by a landslide, but it was stolen from me".
By whom? "We are still looking".
There is no end to this idiocy.
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08-31-2022, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
There is no end to this idiocy.
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It's a game for the MAGAMorons. They will lose, bigly.
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08-31-2022, 05:47 PM
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It's a game for the MAGAMorons. They will lose, bigly.
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Taking everyone along........
Suicide cult?
Their world crashing in on them, still not facing reality.
Feeling nothing to loose... We'll show you!
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08-31-2022, 05:48 PM
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FAKE NEWS EXPOSED: A Service of PoliticalChat.com
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Originally Posted by whell
Thats the claim the FBI made. This is the same FBI that claimed the Russians had video of prostitutes peeing on a bed. The Trump team is claiming that the docs were declassified, or that some docs are subject to Exec Privilege.
So, well see.
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The FBI never once made such a claim. You are running out of excuses and whataboutisms.
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08-31-2022, 06:03 PM
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FAKE NEWS EXPOSED: A Service of PoliticalChat.com
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Originally Posted by whell
Doesn't hurt my feelings a bit.
Your characterization is flawed. Sandy Berger "stole". Clinton's handling of confidential material was deemed negligent, not gross misconduct. As far as I know, Trump's folks were cooperating with the FBI. Then, the raid.
I'm sure we've not heard the complete story on this, but I doubt seriously there was "theft" or "stealing". Hell, the FBI was there months before the raid and knew what was there.
And what exactly did Trump lie to the FBI about regarding these records?
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If you think he was cooperating, you need a better news source (or read the DOJ filing). And yes, taking something that does not belong to you is indeed stealing and these documents most certainly did not belong to him.
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08-31-2022, 07:20 PM
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The telling gap between what Trump says and what his lawyers argue
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...lassify-court/
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Perhaps no person in modern American political history has built a movement on bluster like Donald Trump has. He throws a bunch of stuff at the wall, and his supporters are invited to pick and choose what they want to latch on to.
But even bluster has its limits — particularly in a court of law. And repeatedly in recent years, the sheer emptiness of that bluster has been implicitly confirmed by Trump’s own lawyers. That’s because, in venues that require proving your claims, they have conspicuously declined to feature Trump’s own arguments for his cause.
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When you're as dumb as Whell, you latch on to the bluster, and ignore the facts. Sad.
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08-31-2022, 07:31 PM
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Days before Mar-a-Lago subpoena, Trump lawyer claimed she scoured his office, closets and drawers
A filing by Alina Habba in the case over Trump’s business empire could create exposure in the matter of classified information being stored at the ex-president’s home.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...osets-00054369
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The attorney, Alina Habba, told a New York State court that on May 5, she conducted a search of Trump’s private residence and office at Mar-a-Lago that was so “diligent” it included “all desks, drawers, nightstands, dressers, closets, etc.” She was looking for records in response to a subpoena issued by New York Attorney General Letitia James, who is investigating matters related to the Trump Organization.
The same filing also includes an affidavit from Trump himself, indicating that he “authorized Alina Habba to search my private residence and personal office located at The Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida for any and all documents responsive to the Subpoena.” Habba indicated she conducted similar searches at Trump’s residences and office at his Bedminster estate.
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Yet Whell and his fellow MAGAMorons continue to spout their nonsensical "Move along, nothing to see here!" bullshit. What a bunch of losers!
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08-31-2022, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
The FBI never once made such a claim. You are running out of excuses and whataboutisms.
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It is simply beyond Magats that he had no right to take any document out, classified or not under the NARA act and his executive privilege ended at 12pm Jan 20, 2021. And he is not President, he is Ex-President aka TFG.
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