Putin Invades the Ukraine

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

This crazy business never came to my notice before....



The whole Pepsi-USSR thing started at the 'Kitchen Debate' scene--the Pepsi guy fixed it so Nixon would get Khrushchev over to the Pepsi booth....

https://www.atlasobscura.com/article...on-pepsi-ships

Daddy Coldwarbucks.

[RickeyM]

https://youtu.be/yxgy_FfGUnY

https://youtu.be/5cqlJp3lW_w

These boys are in it to win it.

[BigElCat]

Whoa !

It's going nuclear. All of Europe is now threatened.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-t...010757408.html

We're going DEFCON 1

It's a go NATO ! Hit the Russians in the Ukraine with the works. Now.

Not 3 days from now. Now damn it !

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Whoa !

It's going nuclear. All of Europe is now threatened.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-t...010757408.html

We're going DEFCON 1

It's a go NATO ! Hit the Russians in the Ukraine with the works. Now.

Not 3 days from now. Now damn it !

Putin's plan to nuke the region without without launching a nuke?

[bobabode]

Armchair warriors

[BigElCat]

If this escalates to a total nuclear war, Kansas City would get hit with at least one ICBM.

No warning would even be issued. I'd be dead 15 minutes after launch.

Seems like I'm entitled to offer an opinion.

If NATO can not, or will not, defend Europe, then it should be disbanded.

It's now or never. Do it (or stop posing).

Filmed (partially) in Lawrence, Kansas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8tFlGrgOlY

[Oerets]

This is a cross roads for the human race. We are faced with two choices, to stand up too or bend over and grab our ankles......... If allowed to win Putin and all others with nukes will use extortion to gain control. Just a matter of time before other countries will push this upon the world for gain or survival.

Every other country in the world is scared of what this mad man can or will do. Everyone will be effected by his actions. Most are wanting someone else to take the heat.

I'll defer to letting Biden and the western leaders figure out hopefully a way to manipulate Putin using soft power. In the end I fear only force will be the way. So the choice, call his bluff...or bend over...

[RickeyM]

AS I see it Putin takes all or part of Ukraine, NATO and European allies say no further, an embolden Putin pushes further, war breaks out with NATO, including the US going all out but no nukes, Putin acts to launch nukes to retaliate but will commanders under him execute the order knowing that it will begin an ELE?
Here's hoping I'm wrong.

[Oerets]

With the ever present alternate reality as fact narrative abundantly believed. Fear that those who are in charge of the nukes would follow orders thinking it was necessary as self defense or even just a drill or an exercise.

Calling Putin bluff IMHO would not work due to his evidences so far of little concern for other human suffering. To me he figures, if I loose everybody looses....takes everybody down.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Oerets

With the ever present alternate reality as fact narrative abundantly believed. Fear that those who are in charge of the nukes would follow orders thinking it was necessary as self defense or even just a drill or an exercise.

Calling Putin bluff IMHO would not work due to his evidences so far of little concern for other human suffering. To me he figures, if I loose everybody looses....takes everybody down.

Right. The only drawback to the 'make Putin back down' strategy is that if you don't read Putin just right, it could lead to the end of the world.