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Old 09-10-2020, 03:18 PM
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The Orange Shitstain is live on TV right now trying to sell that same crap that it's Woodward's fault because he didn't run screaming to the world that tRump knew it was bad. First, that's not Woodward's job. Second, anyone that doesn't toe the tRump lie, er line gets attacked if they don't work for him or fired if they do. tRump and Reich-Wing media would have spared no effort to vilify Woodward.
'Oh, I did something wrong? Well it's your fault for not stopping me!'

Didn't he just use this defense for 'losers and suckers?'
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Old 09-10-2020, 03:19 PM
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Only idiots and villains can now defend the enemy of the United States who now occupies the White House. We have his own voice on tape frankly admitting the COVID fraud--the big lie that is costing hundreds of thousands of lives. He should resign or be impeached instantly. The Republicans of congress forced Nixon out, and this is much worse. If Trump is left in office they must fully share his guilt.
Absurd.
I don't think a lot of people here understand how a real leader in the white house actually should handle something like this.

Bob Woodward did not say anything new in his book. The president said exactly the same thing back in March.

It is important to remember that the CDC has now said that 94% of the deaths reported in the US had an AVERAGE of 2.5 co-morbidities with CV19 and that they didn't die OF the virus, but "with" it in their system.

And when you remove from the stats the people that NY and NJ killed with ventilators, it makes this thing a non-event.
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Old 09-10-2020, 03:46 PM
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Daughter of Trumpkin who died of COVID rips president's pandemic comments to Woodward
"The president's lies are undeniable and inexcusable,” said Urquiza, who delivered a blistering rebuke of Trump's handling of the pandemic at the DNC.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...demic-n1239777

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“That betrayal of my father and our country is even more clear now. The president's lies are undeniable and inexcusable,” Urquiza said on the call.

“If Donald Trump had told the American people in public what he had told Bob Woodward in private, thousands of lives could have been spared, including my dad,” she said. “The sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. These deaths were needless and preventable.”
...yet Trumpkin fools continue to deny...
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Old 09-10-2020, 03:51 PM
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@NI: Fog and nonsense, attack the messenger and lying by implication, the implication being that anyone with a co-morbidity is going to die promptly anyway.

You're not fooling anyone capable of critical thinking. You just provide BS rationales that are enough to keep some base members from leaking out. Why do you do it? Does it just seem like a wonderful thing to do to you? Do you get beer money?
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Hannity Delivers Most Absurd Defense Yet of Trump on Woodward’s Tapes
BAD HISTORY

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hannit...ds-trump-tapes

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Following Wednesday’s blockbuster revelation that President Donald Trump admitted to journalist Bob Woodward that he intentionally misled the American public about the dangers of COVID-19, a number of Fox News personalities attempted to run cover for the president. Sean Hannity’s defense of the president, however, was perhaps the most ridiculous one yet.

Comparing Trump’s handling of the pandemic to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt leading the nation through the Great Depression, Hannity—sometimes referred to as Trump’s “shadow chief of staff”—brought up FDR’s most famous quote while simultaneously mangling it.
Comparing this disgusting piece of shit to FDR, probably our greatest Democrat president, is beyond despicable.
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Old 09-10-2020, 03:52 PM
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Fog and nonsense, attack the messenger and lying by inpmication, the implication being that anyone with a co-morbidity is going to die promptly anyway.

You're not fooling anyone capable of critical thinking. You just provide BS rationales that are enought to keep some base members from leaking out. Why do you do it? Does it just seem like a wonderful thing to do to you. Do you get beer money?
...bragging rights with his co-idiots?
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:05 PM
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First, you're missing that the point is brought up as a PR counterpunch, to throw some blame at the messenger and thus lessen the impact of the message. As such, it deserves to be regarded as dishonest noise, and ignored. Save the pondering of hard points of journalistic ethics for a graduate seminar at Columbia.
Your response is cryptic to me and I'm not sure I understand this part of it.
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WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a full-throated defense of Donald J. Trump’s coronavirus response, the White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, said on Thursday that no one has worked harder than the President to protect the American people from facts.

“President Trump had the facts about the coronavirus as early as February,” she told reporters. “If he had not taken bold and swift action, those facts could have spread like wildfire.”

She drew a sharp contrast between the United States and countries such as South Korea and New Zealand, “where facts have spread out of control.”

“It all comes down to leadership,” she said.

McEnany added that Trump’s war on facts was “far from over,” calling it a “daily struggle.”

“This President has worked tirelessly, every day, to prevent facts from being transmitted to the American people, and on Election Day the American people will repay him for that,” she said.
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Old 09-11-2020, 07:28 AM
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@NI: Fog and nonsense, attack the messenger and lying by implication, the implication being that anyone with a co-morbidity is going to die promptly anyway.
Nope. That's your inference. The implication is we don't know if it killed them.

This would be telling: In a nursing home or senior living area that had deaths from CV19, how did their daily, monthly, weekly, death rate (from all causes) cnange? Did it go up, or down, or stay the same? Let's say the average was 20 a month, and now, they claim that 8 died of the virus last month, yet their death count for the month was 21. Would a reasonable person not first come to the conclusion that the virus may have increased deaths that month by 1, rather than 8? And we now have several months of stats to analyze.

I'm simply using reason and logic here. That is why I was as afraid as everyone else in the beginning, but quickly revised my thinking as I studied information from a variety of sources. I was for flattening the curve, for the reasons specified.

We did that in a couple of weeks, yet here we are, even as the virus has run its course, as they do. Our economy is being destroyed needlessly. And that has a cost. A human cost, both in quality of life and lives lost. If only people grasped that the lockdown is not only not zero sum, but it is extremely costly. Much more than many people will acknowledge.
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