Thirty Years On, How Well Do Global Warming Predictions Stand Up?

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Originally Posted by Chicks

Hearing on climate change and national security becomes an angry partisan clash

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/04/09/pol...ing/index.html

Sigh. I can semi understand an uneducated fool like Whell being this stupid about the fully proven science on global warming, but these Repube members of congress are supposed to be serving the public interest, not Big Energy. It’s thoroughly disgusting and disheartening.

That should be "fully proven consensus science."

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by nailer

That should be "fully proven consensus science."

Whether you believe climate change is real or not is a topic that sidetracks us from a core issue. The real question is;

Who are the morons who really WANT to stick with expensive, inefficient, finite and dirty burning fuel sources?

Seriously, it really is that simple. Think about it, Climate issues aside, why in the hell does the average American think it's so important that we "save coal"? Why in the hell do we cling to the idea of burning petroleum products? I say the average American because we know damn well why the businessmen and politicians do what they do. THAT'S all about money. But, the average schmuck actually CARES whether his vehicle is powered with electricity vs. internal combustion...…...WHY? They have a thing for breathing hydrocarbon exhaust? They LIKE paying $3+ a gallon for gasoline? I wonder how many would stand in line to have their home heat converted back to coal so they can have big fun shoveling it into the furnace at 3 a.m.?

Jobs? Wasn't it not all that long ago that it was REPUBLICANS who would tell people "If you lose your job, stop whining, lift yourself up and go find some other way to make your living!"? Now, they want to start digging up more coal up because there are too many hillbillies...….Oh sorry, my bad.....pro-Trump voters on food stamps in Kentucky and West Virginia.

What do you guys think?

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

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What do you guys think?

1. You asked so many question I can't tell which is the key one.
2. You're suffering from coal on the brain.
3. Relatively speaking, oil and natural gas are efficient energy sources that are not expensive.
4. You didn't get my post.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by nailer

1. You asked so many question I can't tell which is the key one.
2. You're suffering from coal on the brain.
3. Relatively speaking, oil and natural gas are efficient energy sources that are not expensive.
4. You didn't get my post.

1). The key one is the one separated out from the others.

2). The Mar-a-Lago lard ass campaigned on bringing coal back as an energy source when an actual leader would have simply told Appalachia what they've needed to hear for decades; "Forget coal, move on, find some other (legal) way to earn a living or starve to death.". I'm sick and tired of boo-hooing coal miners. There will always be some use for coal but it will NEVER be what it was and never should be, no matter how many times country musicians write weepy, tear-jerking songs about impoverished hillbillies. "I'm proud to be a coal miners daughter..." Who in the hell really cares? We're all the child of somebody, a mechanic, a dentist, a mailman or whatever...…… What makes coal miners so special? Nothing, really. If I moved on after losing my job in the auto industry, they can just shut up and deal with it too.

3). Oil and NG may be as you said, but it should be clearly understood that it's on its way out as an energy source as we push ahead with alternatives rather than something we invest in as if it has a bright future. Natural gas burns relatively clean but is finite nonetheless so; See above.

4). No, I did not. The choices we make in energy sources and how we move forward and climate change are linked. Imagine the mess we would have had we done absolutely nothing about hydrocarbon and other forms of pollution over the last 50 years.

My point is that the only thing holding us back is the refusal of an industry and people to let go of the past.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Yeh, but his fervent belief is supply-side economics is pulling him through.

Supply-side economics is exactly what emptied out the city Whell lives in. Nobody cared that the auto industry was creating high paying jobs in Detroit, they just wanted better and cheaper cars. So, the government lifted import restrictions and gave the car buying public more options. Do I blame the industry or the UAW for wanting American workers to live well? No.

I blame people who bitch about our workers having it "too good" and demanding government and industry do something about it...….……...and then wonder where all the "good jobs" went. Morons. Those jobs are gone because they were given what they wanted.

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Supply-side economics is exactly what emptied out the city Whell lives in. Nobody cared that the auto industry was creating high paying jobs in Detroit, they just wanted better and cheaper cars. So, the government lifted import restrictions and gave the car buying public more options. Do I blame the industry or the UAW for wanting American workers to live well? No.

I blame people who bitch about our workers having it "too good" and demanding government and industry do something about it...….……...and then wonder where all the "good jobs" went. Morons. Those jobs are gone because they were given what they wanted.

Sad but true. The tax code......35% to 21%...…..there is a gap there

[Chicks]

Gradually, then suddenly: Why climate change may affect asset prices sooner than you think
As the physical consequences of climate change become more frequent, severe, and costly, new policies and regulation follow. We explore why clients may want to take a strategic approach to managing climate risks sooner rather than later.

https://www.wellington.com/en/insigh...ted/?_c=ai4jsq

We believe climate risk — and resultant asset repricing — will become top-of-mind issues for investors along the lines of central bank actions, trade policy, or geopolitical tensions. As we know from other market cycles, including the lead-up to the global financial crisis, “gradually, then suddenly” is often how markets respond to existential change, and this is how we see a wide variety of asset prices responding to the growing risks associated with a changing climate.

One of the more conservative wealth management firms warns of the upcoming consequences of climate change. Maybe morons like Whell will finally understand the threat as more conservatives chime in. He's pretty dense, though...

[Chicks]

Strong winds are supersizing the ocean's biggest waves
Amped-up winds and waves could aggravate the effects of climate change, adding destructive strength to storms already fueled by rising seas.

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science...ves-ncna999741

Ever more real scientific studies showing the effects of the very real climate change, destroying the idiotic OP’s fake Big Energy backed “study”.

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Trump administration pushed to strip mention of climate change from Arctic policy statement

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...986_story.html

Of course they did. Gotta keep ignorant fucks like Whell voting for them.

[Chicks]

Flooding From Michigan to the South Damages Homes, Sends Mississippi River to 157-Year-High in Davenport, Iowa

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-0...ippi-davenport

Global warming causing havoc in the heart of the Bible Belt. Ya think these Evangelical morons will wake up to the facts, Whell?