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08-19-2017, 12:02 PM
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He i every bit as comfortable with a lie as Trump. That was one of the more blatant ones.
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You're wrong, too. But that's familiar territory for ya.
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08-19-2017, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
The same is true for Antifa and BLM.
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And even more false equivalency, courtesy of...
Whell's False Equivalency 'R Us.
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08-19-2017, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
You don't like Trump?
What I notice is you've never met an anti-Trump argument that you like, and you will make or repeat the most vacuous counter-arguments.
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Make and "anti-Trump argument" that I like, and I'l support it.
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08-19-2017, 12:04 PM
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Of course he's not, whell. Nice try with a weak misdirection though. Or maybe you're just not bright enough to follow the discourse you're generating.
Your question is pure bullsh. You've been the Artless Dodger dancing around the subject of whether or not you support President Trump, issue notwithstanding.
Nice poor little misunderstood/abused me closing whine.
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Nice try yourself, but a swing and a miss is still a strike.
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08-19-2017, 12:07 PM
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Make and "anti-Trump argument" that I like, and I'l support it.
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Trump himself is the best anti-Trump argument anyone could make.
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08-19-2017, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
He definitely has not shown the capacity (or humanity necessary) to say "I was wrong about Trump and I find his use of racial hatred to polarize America and fire up his base disgusting," even though we now have direct quotes from Bannon saying just that (as if that were necessary after the Central Park Five, Birtherism, Judge Curiel, Mexicans are rapists, Muslim ban ...).
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I'm not into selective indignation. I don't think Trump used "race hatred" to polarize America. I don't think Trump looked at the "birther" thing through a racist prism. Judge Curiel wasn't about race, nor was the "Muslim ban". He never said "Mexicans are racist.
Those were in-artful comments to be sure, and it gave his political enemies spun into accusations of racism. Which begs the question: who really was using race as a political tool? Was it Trump, or those who made racial political hay out of his comments?
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08-19-2017, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
I'm not into selective indignation. I don't think Trump used "race hatred" to polarize America. I don't think Trump looked at the "birther" thing through a racist prism. Judge Curiel wasn't about race, nor was the "Muslim ban". He never said "Mexicans are racist.
Those were in-artful comments to be sure, and it gave his political enemies spun into accusations of racism. Which begs the question: who really was using race as a political tool? Was it Trump, or those who made racial political hay out of his comments?
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Let me know when you run out of bullshit since you seem to have an endless supply with all things Trump. This is from Bannot who got Trump elected or are you going to dispute that too?
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“I think they’re going to try to moderate him,” Bannon said. “I think he’ll sign a clean debt ceiling; I think you’ll see all this stuff. His natural tendency — and I think you saw it this week on Charlottesville — his actual default position is the position of his base, the position that got him elected. I think you’re going to see a lot of constraints on that. I think it’ll be much more conventional.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mepage%2Fstory
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08-19-2017, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
I'm not into selective indignation. I don't think Trump used "race hatred" to polarize America. I don't think Trump looked at the "birther" thing through a racist prism. Judge Curiel wasn't about race, nor was the "Muslim ban". He never said "Mexicans are racist.
Those were in-artful comments to be sure, and it gave his political enemies spun into accusations of racism. Which begs the question: who really was using race as a political tool? Was it Trump, or those who made racial political hay out of his comments?
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This post completely vindicates what I said in #153: you accept absolutely NO criticism of Trump, and you will make any vacuous argument in support of him.
Cute one up there. He never said "Mexicans are racist." Racist/rapists? Deception by pun? Oh aren't you just so clever!
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08-19-2017, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
I don't think Trump looked at the "birther" thing through a racist prism. Judge Curiel wasn't about race, nor was the "Muslim ban". He never said "Mexicans are racist....Was it Trump, or those who made racial political hay out of his comments?
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WTF??? So, people who object to Trump's overt racism are the racists? Typical right-wing projection.
You're assertion that none of those actions of Trump's are racist is proof-positive that you have no idea what racism is and that you're more than willing to accept and defend it. I bet you'd defend a Trump-sponsored KKK cross burning on the White House lawn. You have no soul.
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08-19-2017, 12:32 PM
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WTF??? So, people who object to Trump's overt racism are the racists? Typical right-wing projection.
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Typical propaganda tactics. Spread FUD by accusing them of what you're doing.
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