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08-30-2022, 07:47 AM
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LOL. Dude, rest easy. I'm not concerned. James Comey told us that no reasonable prosecutor would charge anyone for this.
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The two cases are not really comparable (and I was quite critical of Hillary at the time). Her transgressions did not implicate the espionage act or obstruction. Also, she fully cooperated (there was no need for a search warrant) and she didn't lie to investigators. And lastly, Jim Comey was not appointed by Hillary whereas Chris Wray was appointed by Trump.
The bottom line - Each and every criminal investigation stands or falls on its own merits, not the merits of an unrelated investigation six years ago. Hillary's case was about mishandling classified info. Trump's is for illegal removal, willful retention, and obstruction.
However, you remain reliable in regurgitating GOP talking points.
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08-29-2022, 05:18 PM
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We may well never know how many people have died due to his treason. The long term damage to our gathering of information and trust with partner countries.
Crickets from the cult on any legit reasons for him having the information BTW.
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08-29-2022, 08:00 PM
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So let me try and understand this.
The J6 committee hearings is a political 'witch hunt' against Traitor Trump who instigated an insurrection to prevent the election from being certified?
The FBI raid on Mag-a-Lardo is a home invasion of Thief Trump who stole classified documents from our government, returned some, lied about returning all of it and then the FBI had to go there retrieve them?
And now Imposter Graham is using his dog whistle to rile up the cult to rise in revolt in support of Trump the Mobster?
Does it occur to the Magats that J6 Committee nor FBI broke any laws, only Trump (Traitor, Thief or Mobster)?
Graham hasn't, but he is flirting with it all the same.
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08-30-2022, 06:49 AM
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So let me try and understand this.
The J6 committee hearings is a political 'witch hunt' against Traitor Trump who instigated an insurrection to prevent the election from being certified?
The FBI raid on Mag-a-Lardo is a home invasion of Thief Trump who stole classified documents from our government, returned some, lied about returning all of it and then the FBI had to go there retrieve them?
And now Imposter Graham is using his dog whistle to rile up the cult to rise in revolt in support of Trump the Mobster?
Does it occur to the Magats that J6 Committee nor FBI broke any laws, only Trump (Traitor, Thief or Mobster)?
Graham hasn't, but he is flirting with it all the same.
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1) House investigations, including the J6 committee, are most often political theater.
2) Mag-a-Lardo, that's cute. The documents should have been returned,. A raid with armed agents including complete with tipped off media was political theater.
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08-30-2022, 07:11 AM
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1) House investigations, including the J6 committee, are most often political theater.
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The J6 hearings have less political theater character than any I can remember - no long speeches pretending to be questions, no screaming, no posing, no disingenuous gotcha questions, and no reluctant dissembling witnesses. It would have been political theater if Gym Jordan or other Trump sycophants were on it, shrieking like banshees, but alas they're not. It is probably the best-managed and best-presented hearing in the modern era (and I have prepared testimony and attended quite a few Congressional oversight and budget hearings for DOD, DOL and DOE).
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2) Mag-a-Lardo, that's cute. The documents should have been returned,. A raid with armed agents including complete with tipped off media was political theater.
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The media was not tipped off. A local reporter first reported in the early afternoon that something was apparently going on at MAL but had no details or live footage, but it wasn't confirmed until Trump himself sent out notification on Truth Social later than evening. Where do you come up with such lies?
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08-30-2022, 07:38 AM
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The media was not tipped off. A local reporter first reported in the early afternoon that something was apparently going on at MAL but had no details or live footage, but it wasn't confirmed until Trump himself sent out notification on Truth Social later than evening. Where do you come up with such lies?
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Correct, Mar a Lago was the exception where the press was not tipped off. Still, the extreme presence of armed agents was crafted to intimidate and make for great drone footage.
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08-30-2022, 07:51 AM
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Correct, Mar a Lago was the exception where the press was not tipped off. Still, the extreme presence of armed agents was crafted to intimidate and make for great drone footage.
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Then why did you say that the press was tipped off if you knew they weren't?  Shift the goal post much?
The agents waited until Trump was not there to preclude a noisy confrontation. They did not wear the conspicuous FBI-emblazoned jackets and FBI agents are always armed, particularly when dealing with career criminals. This was done by the book and was necessary after Trump lied repeatedly about having returned all classified documents.
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08-30-2022, 08:13 AM
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Trump demands reinstatement as 'rightful' president or 'a new Election, immediately!' as some Republicans seek distance from him
https://www.businessinsider.com/dona...rty-2022-8?amp
What sort of sorry clown would take this wannabe seriously? Whell, of course, who is clearly brain dead.
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08-30-2022, 08:18 AM
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Trump demands reinstatement as 'rightful' president or 'a new Election, immediately!' as some Republicans seek distance from him
https://www.businessinsider.com/dona...rty-2022-8?amp
What sort of sorry clown would take this wannabe seriously? Whell, of course, who is clearly brain dead.
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Please post a link to ANY post of mine where I've stated anything remotely supportive of this.
Or are you a permanent resident in the straw man construction zone?
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08-30-2022, 08:47 AM
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What book?

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Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41
Next question. Are you enjoying your beating?
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