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07-15-2010, 05:29 PM
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Right. At well over 9,000 p.s.i. on a 22" pipe (>380 sq.in. opening.) you would have 3,420,000 pounds or approximately 1710 tons of pressure pressing against a the cap. Simply attempting to stop that kind of pressure instantly could be a big mistake. As I understand it, they are using two valves, a "kill valve" and another valve. The idea being to slowly reduce the flow. As the volume slows, the pressure will rise as they are inversely proportional. This allows them them to raise the pressure slowly while inspecting the pipe and sea bed for other potential leaks.
In short form; If you just simply slap the thing shut, you run the risk of blowing larger holes God only knows where else, ending up with a totally hopeless situation.
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Yew can kount???
For what it's worth, air chambers on plumbing fixtures are code. And we're only dealing with basically 40 PSI.
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07-15-2010, 06:21 PM
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Yeah, I kin cypher too. All part o' the book lernins I got frum tha Ohiya publik skewl sistum.
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07-16-2010, 06:55 AM
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Stopped, so far so good.
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07-16-2010, 10:00 AM
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Interesting tidbit, I saw on the news last light, they said Valdez, it came to $8000 per animal cleaned/serviced, and that 2/3s of them died within 90 days.
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07-16-2010, 10:08 AM
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Interesting tidbit, I saw on the news last light, they said Valdez, it came to $8000 per animal cleaned/serviced, and that 2/3s of them died within 90 days.
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1. Where did you see this?
2. How did they determine that the animals they assisted died later?
3. How much per animal of Exxon's money is too much?
4. What conclusions do you draw from this?
5. It's Friday, Pete. Where are they?
John
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07-16-2010, 10:22 AM
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Interesting tidbit, I saw on the news last light, they said Valdez, it came to $8000 per animal cleaned/serviced, and that 2/3s of them died within 90 days.
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As uncool as it may be to say, I think the scrubbing of birds with Dawn is mostly a "feel good" exercise to keep the treehuggers happy on the beach thinking that they're actually contributing in some fashion.
I think it's way more important to focus quickly and effectively on restoring the habitat itself. The critters will ultimately fill the vacuum left by their (unfortunately) deceased brethren.
PS - Pete, TGIF. Entertain us.
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07-16-2010, 10:28 AM
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Dance, monkey, dance!
I'm really to busy to be doing this! It was either CBS or ABC, I saw it in passing. Right now, they are rescuing turtles, clean, 1st aid, then storing them in containers until the oil passes.
They also mentioned that there are hundreds of scientists in the gulf right now regarding impact on wildlife. We really don't play.
Pete
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07-16-2010, 10:39 AM
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I thought that they said the cleaned animals died in two years. If so that woulld at least give them time to breed.
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07-16-2010, 10:50 AM
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Ah, that could be.
Pete
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07-16-2010, 04:12 PM
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Interesting tidbit, I saw on the news last light, they said Valdez, it came to $8000 per animal cleaned/serviced, and that 2/3s of them died within 90 days.
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I think I saw basically the same thing. A waste of resources if true.
But I guess that pictures of someone like me walking the beach and putting them out of their misery with a 10-22 wouldn't go over too well on the 6:00 PM news.
Which, as bad as it would be, would be less traumatic for the poor birds.
Chas
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