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02-12-2016, 08:12 PM
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It helps everyone that has a steady income can afford the mortgage. Since we have a progressive (Feel the Bern  ) tax system, higher income people can shelter more. So in that sense it does help the rich more so than the not so rich.
PS: Whatever happened to Hillary on this thread? Is she still going to make a comeback? 
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Next week!
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02-12-2016, 08:16 PM
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I sure did.  Seriously though, if one believes in the viability of home ownership as a method to build wealth in the long term, there are rules one should follow to maximize the potential of appreciation. Similar rules apply to all varieties of investments.
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02-12-2016, 08:16 PM
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I think the only non-compromised pragmatist without a load of baggage is probably Kasich, though he has some views on social issues that I don't agree with. His ability to do anything meaningfully bad on abortion or gay rights are constrained by SCOTUS precedent, so I can live with it.
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Just your opinion and you make this sound like profound wisdom.
Kasich is no better nor worse than any other Washington DC trained politician, just happens to be your preferred candidate.
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02-12-2016, 08:19 PM
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I absolutely adore your eternal optimism. And trust me, Hillary needs more supporters like you to snag some more real 'Democratic' delegates.
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02-12-2016, 08:23 PM
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How do we pay for Single Payer guys (and girl) without a significant increase in taxes?
It will not be free. Remember middle-class people who don't own homes and do not get the home mortgage deduction WILL be hurt by a higher tax burden even more when now they will have to pay for medical care for everyone.
Sanders has not told me how he is going to do it.
Hillary is right on this point.
Remember Paul Ryan has the gavel I am sure he is not going to soak the rich after voting to break up the large banks (this might happen in an alternate universe episode of Star Trek). Guess what Nancy Pelosi is not going to do it either.
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02-12-2016, 08:24 PM
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I absolutely adore your eternal optimism. And trust me, Hillary needs more supporters like you to snag some more real 'Democratic' delegates.
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I am playing the long game lol.
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02-12-2016, 08:32 PM
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Just your opinion and you make this sound like profound wisdom.
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Of course it's just my opinion. Thanks for finding my views profound though.
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Kasich is no better nor worse than any other Washington DC trained politician, just happens to be your preferred candidate.
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He is indeed my preferred candidate, though he's no great shakes and I won't vote for him in the primary (I'm an independent and thereby can't vote in Maryland primaries). He's just the only pragmatist who isn't otherwise flawed, compromised or subject to indictment.
To put it mildly, I'm not thrilled with the choices this year.
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02-12-2016, 08:47 PM
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Of course it's just my opinion. Thanks for finding my views profound though.
He is indeed my preferred candidate, though he's no great shakes and I won't vote for him in the primary (I'm an independent and thereby can't vote in Maryland primaries). He's just the only pragmatist who isn't otherwise flawed, compromised or subject to indictment.
To put it mildly, I'm not thrilled with the choices this year.
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Just another garden variety Republican that as usual loves to dole out tax cuts (top rate down from 39% to 28%) while promising to balance the budget, a bit conservatively though in eight years. How convenient.
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02-12-2016, 09:16 PM
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How do we pay for Single Payer guys (and girl) without a significant increase in taxes?
It will not be free. Remember middle-class people who don't own homes and do not get the home mortgage deduction WILL be hurt by a higher tax burden even more when now they will have to pay for medical care for everyone.
Sanders has not told me how he is going to do it.
Hillary is right on this point.
Remember Paul Ryan has the gavel I am sure he is not going to soak the rich after voting to break up the large banks (this might happen in an alternate universe episode of Star Trek). Guess what Nancy Pelosi is not going to do it either.
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A good start would be the 20%, and here in Ca. even up to 30%, of premiums charged by insurance companies charge for nothing more than billing and denying claims would pay for a lot of it.
Carl
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02-12-2016, 10:22 PM
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I am playing the long game lol.
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Ayup. The arm waving old hippie shouter from Vermont is goin' down in the south.
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