'Large Group Of Armed Militia Members Take Over Federal Building'

[donquixote99]

"Smaller armed group of militia members...."

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by bobabode

FBI releases video of Finicum shooting/suicide by cop.
https://youtu.be/aAGxDWKrjPQ

Classic misdirection.

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FYI: by "misdirection" I mean that LE had 100% control of the environment and an officer was produced from a direction not expected by the alleged (ahem) criminal.

Make any move that can be interpreted as threatening and the covering officer follows training.

Buh Bye.

To quote Bruce Hornsby, "That's Just The Way It Is."

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by bobabode

FBI releases video of Finicum shooting/suicide by cop.
https://youtu.be/aAGxDWKrjPQ

It looked like he started up with his hands up. Then he seemed to be reaching in his jacket. Did anyone else see it that way? Has there been any information about whether he was actually armed?

Regatrds,

D-Ray

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

It looked like he started up with his hands up. Then he seemed to be reaching in his jacket. Did anyone else see it that way? Has there been any information about whether he was actually armed?

Regatrds,

D-Ray

Yep. He reached into his pocket where he had a loaded 9mm.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by MrPots

I get so sick of these angry white guys.... so abused, so put upon....

You got that right. I hear it all the time from relatives, coworkers........

All I can think anymore is; "Oh, just STFU.". It's gotten to the point I'm almost embarrassed to be identified with them.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Yep. He reached into his pocket where he had a loaded 9mm.

At that point it was suicide, IMO. It would take a special kind of stupid to think he was going to shoot his way out of that trap. Maybe he foolishly thought the cowards in the truck had his back?

Too much time spent watching too many mythical cowboys in too many Hollywood films and listening to too much he-man, right-wing, flag waiving bullshit. When it comes down to the real thing, many people suddenly realize it just doesn't work that way. Those people your government has hired and trained to bring you down WILL bust a cap in your ass if you leave them no choice.

My question is; What in the f**k makes people think it ever was or ever will be any other way? Is there any other government on the face of this earth that will watch you threaten armed rebellion as you begin seizing government property and just sit there and do nothing?

Really, think about that. I don't give a damn what the founders said or wrote or what anyone thinks the Constitution is all about, I'm pretty sure if a bunch of yahoos started waiving guns around and threatening to march on Philadelphia, George Washington would have had something for their asses.

I can't help but think they're stupid. Just plain stupid.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

...I'm pretty sure if a bunch of yahoos started waiving guns around and threatening to march on Philadelphia, George Washington would have had something for their asses...

Or Abraham Lincoln...

These folks were WAY outside of bounds or reality.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

At that point it was suicide, IMO. It would take a special kind of stupid to think he was going to shoot his way out of that trap. Maybe he foolishly thought the cowards in the truck had his back?

Too much time spent watching too many mythical cowboys in too many Hollywood films and listening to too much he-man, right-wing, flag waiving bullshit. When it comes down to the real thing, many people suddenly realize it just doesn't work that way. Those people your government has hired and trained to bring you down WILL bust a cap in your ass if you leave them no choice.

My question is; What in the f**k makes people think it ever was or ever will be any other way? Is there any other government on the face of this earth that will watch you threaten armed rebellion as you begin seizing government property and just sit there and do nothing?

Really, think about that. I don't give a damn what the founders said or wrote or what anyone thinks the Constitution is all about, I'm pretty sure if a bunch of yahoos started waiving guns around and threatening to march on Philadelphia, George Washington would have had something for their asses.

I can't help but think they're stupid. Just plain stupid.

The real poser is that most of these men had life by the balls. Pretty much everything they need or want, they had.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by MrPots

The real poser is that most of these men had life by the balls. Pretty much everything they need or want, they had.

The desire to be on TV is strong.

[finnbow]

It seems to me that a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun.