White Ignorance at the Core of Racial Tensions

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Zeke comes unhinged. Catch it, daily! Right here on PC.ORG.

Not unhinged at all.

I note you are -- still -- unable to address the arguments(s).

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by zeke

not unhinged at all.

I note you are -- still -- unable to address the arguments(s).

fuck that!!!!!!!!!bwaaaaaaahahahah!!!

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

fuck that!!!!!!!!!bwaaaaaaahahahah!!!

Oddly, my friends say they can "hear" me when reading my type. Apparently, my writing contains a lot of personal voice...

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

1. Attacking an officer post robbery.
2. Wielding what appears to be an assault weapon in public.
3. Resisting yet another arrest in a thirty-five year criminal history.

Someone died.

You're selling these incidents as a right to be frustrated?

FUCK THAT.

What if someone resisted arrest by attacking an officer with an assault weapon after a thirty-five year criminal history? Are entitled troglodytes still going to sell that as "we've got a right?"

FUCK THAT.

Recently, these pages have been festering with the worst forms of self-important white guilt and inundated with the idea that minorities are consistently put upon, our failures not our own and that we're somehow justified in attacking a society born with generational design to keep us low.

FUCK THAT.

Because that is the worst form of pandering, embarrassing, perpetuates the dogma that minorities require help to compete and codifies it in motions, actions, forms and traits that are actually about the perceived oppressor and NOT the people supposedly helped by such activities.

FUCK THAT.

Nobody alive today ever owned a slave. Nobody alive today kept American Indians on reservations at gunpoint. Nobody alive today keeps ANYONE from being successful...

...except ourselves.

You want to help minorities become full-fledged members of society with access to the same presumed privileges, rights, responsibilities, involvement and status as other folks? Hold us to the same standards. That would be truly brave and leadership. But what do most folks say?

FUCK THAT.

Because then, they couldn't be bleeding hearts who nurture their white guilt like the most fragile dove to make THEMSELVES believe they are unique, special, deserving of something different or more worthy than folks who don't believe it's too much to demand minorities -- who desire to be treated as full-fledged citizens -- fucking act like they are.

Fucking idiots. Every time you allow specious behavior -- from anyone, not just minorities -- you're codifying a sense of entitlement to them that disavows responsibility, justifies their actions and otherwise dehumanizes them by saying they cannot perform to the standards of the species.

FUCK THAT.

Those who canonize the robber, gun wielder, career criminal and those who sanction unlawful behavior in their memory are as big a problem as the minorities who originally committed the unlawful and/or idiotic action(s).

Grow up.

Exhibit A above:

Righteous Cop Rage.

I submit that the above is representative of the state of mind of Darren Wilson when he shot Michael Brown.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Not unhinged at all.

I note you are -- still -- unable to address the arguments(s).

What arguments? Strong emotion is not argument.

You're mistaking feeling strongly about things for being right about things. There's no correlation, actually. It's insane to think there is, actually.

[donquixote99]

OK Zeke, I'll climb down a little. You do have some argument in there, between all the fuck thats. It's just that the fuck thats drown it out.

You aren't all wrong, but you aren't all right. But until a couple of things happen, you will never learn one more thing than you already know. First, you need to calm down. You're putting it all on the line here. There's no need to do that, and it just turns your brain into an endless loop that always takes you to nowhere but 'they are wrong' and 'I am right.'

Second, you need to get that there are shades of grey in the world. It ain't all black and white.

[mpholland]

I live in Washington. Idaho is next to me and Oregon below. We see far more whites killed by police than blacks.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

OK Zeke, I'll climb down a little. You do have some argument in there, between all the fuck thats. It's just that the fuck thats drown it out.

You aren't all wrong, but you aren't all right. But until a couple of things happen, you will never learn one more thing than you already know. First, you need to calm down. You're putting it all on the line here. There's no need to do that, and it just turns your brain into an endless loop that always takes you to nowhere but 'they are wrong' and 'I am right.'

Second, you need to get that there are shades of grey in the world. It ain't all black and white.

Interesting choice of words in that last sentence, since although the demonstrators clearly want to make it about color it is not always so. I've known plenty of white guys who had the spit beaten out of them by Chicago and suburban Chicago cops for way less than either Brown's or Garner's behavior. And when we get to issues of being railroaded by police and prosecutors, it's no different. Just ask Marty Tankleff, Gary Dotson, or Rolando Cruz. In Cruz's case, DuPage County cops and prosecutors knew that serial killer Brian Dugan had raped and killed 10 year old Jeanine Nicarico when they first charged Cruz...but Dupage states attorney Joe Birkett had big statewide political ambitions, needed a high profile win, and knew he couldn't get Dugan. So Cruz got railroaded.

We don't have a justice system, we have a legal system. Any justice that gets done, gets done by chance.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

OK Zeke, I'll climb down a little. You do have some argument in there, between all the fuck thats. It's just that the fuck thats drown it out.

You aren't all wrong, but you aren't all right. But until a couple of things happen, you will never learn one more thing than you already know. First, you need to calm down. You're putting it all on the line here. There's no need to do that, and it just turns your brain into an endless loop that always takes you to nowhere but 'they are wrong' and 'I am right.'

Second, you need to get that there are shades of grey in the world. It ain't all black and white.

1. I am calm.
2. Try reading my missive in Ron White voice.

There is no "shade of grey" in an officer being justified in using deadly force if he/she believes they -- or the public -- are in mortal danger.

There's just not.

That's your job.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Exhibit A above:

Righteous Cop Rage.

I submit that the above is representative of the state of mind of Darren Wilson when he shot Michael Brown.

I submit that your Straw Men are still weak.