Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Uh, no. However, I believe it was you who said that Wilson must be subjected to a trial (without knowing whether or not sufficient evidence exists to indict him) to preclude the public from being tempted to mob action.

I'm glad we've clarified that neither of us think that all the concerned citizens of Ferguson should be considered as mobsters. My comment, of course, was made in light of messages from you that seem to reject the concerns of the people in Ferguson because some number of them were.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Angered support? To whom do you refer?

Watch any news?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Watch any news?

I'll take your failure to answer as meaning you can't.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

If that's what you desire to call "being right from jump," go ahead.

Like the rest of the world needs Zeke's approval to proceed with the things we desire. Thanks Zeke. Go buy a bigger hat.

How many Zeke's does it take to change a light bulb?
Just one...just the original Zeke.
He stands underneath the light fixture holding the bulb and the world revolves around him.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Lots of mob mentality on display in this thread from my lefty brethren.

No shit.

Originally Posted by bobabode

Before any wingnut thinks that I'm taking your side? Go stuff it.

That's how it works though, eh bob? Drift slightly off the approved ideological path and you're in for it from your lefty brethren worse than you are ever from the opposition. Try being a lefty supporter of the State of Israel on any left-leaning internet forum if you want to experience some really intense scorn. It's a real eye opener.

I got the same shit during the 2008 presidential election when I tried to suggest that Barack Obama was no reformer, and in fact a produced in the mold of backroom dealing Chicago politicians of both parties. The lefty scorn was unbelievable and I was immediately a closeted conservative traitor.

[icenine]

Maybe you both do not countenance the possibility that someone may have have been show with his hands in the air surrendering. The protests afterwards does not really have anything else to to with the issue, except perhaps insuring a grand jury was called. If you cannot see the possibility that Wilson may have acted wrongly then you are as blind as you accuse us of being.

Perhaps PC is not as progressive as as believed. People have left this place if you have not noticed.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I'm glad we've clarified that neither of us think that all the concerned citizens of Ferguson should be considered as mobsters. My comment, of course, was made in light of messages from you that seem to reject the concerns of the people in Ferguson because some number of them were.

The people of Ferguson are obviously pissed off about all sorts of stuff, and generally rightly so. As are the people of Flint and the people of Gary and the people of Newark and the nearby people of E. St. Louis. The shooting of a total innocent or a thug (armed or not), seems to me local surveillance clearly identified that Michael Brown was a petulant teenage thug, tends to be enough to set off some level of expressed frustration. It's not like it's anything new. Witness Chicago 1919, Harlem 1964 (police shooting of James Powell), Watts, Dr. King, Rodney King...Ferguson and plenty of others.

Reckon Zeke will enjoy this little historical trip down memory lane:
http://www.vox.com/michael-brown-sho...y-civil-rights

I think if we were being honest though, we would have to accept that most of the demonstrators therein were simply angry oppressed people who were driven over the top...but also included a number of mobsters taking advantage of the opportunity. MSNBC will insist on the former being the overwhelming faction...FOX will insist on the latter.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by icenine

Maybe you both do not countenance the possibility that someone may have have been show with his hands in the air surrendering. The protests afterwards does not really have anything else to to with the issue, except perhaps insuring a grand jury was called. If you cannot see the possibility that Wilson may have acted wrongly then you are as blind as you accuse us of being.

Perhaps PC is not as progressive as as believed. People have left this place if you have not noticed.

^^^Mob mentality! Mob mentality!

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Lots of mob mentality on display in this thread from my lefty brethren. Before any wingnut thinks that I'm taking your side? Go stuff it.

I'm wanting to revisit this, I find. That's a rather loaded term, and I don't think anything anyone has said here comes close to the mob-type hostility towards any group members not 'joining in.'. If some people's positions seem in some ways unexpected and inconsistent, reasonable comment on them is not out of line. Is it?

You are pretty much complaining of major and rough criticism being dished out for failure to embrace the groupthink. Got any message numbers? I think you're exaggerating, and I think calling any thing here 'mob mentality' is actually the closest thing we've seen to that.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by icenine

Maybe you both do not countenance the possibility that someone may have have been show with his hands in the air surrendering. The protests afterwards does not really have anything else to to with the issue, except perhaps insuring a grand jury was called. If you cannot see the possibility that Wilson may have acted wrongly then you are as blind as you accuse us of being.

Perhaps PC is not as progressive as as believed. People have left this place if you have not noticed.

Who TF said that it's impossible that Wilson may have acted wrongly? Not me. Not bob.

For that matter, who TF cares if PC isn't a progressive as somebody might once have believed? And if people have left this place because the ride gets a bit bumpy from time to time that's life. Does anybody really want a forum where everybody sits around holding hands and singing kumbaya in the sweat lodge with their pants off? Been there. Been on boring-ass lefty forums where anybody who drifted off the acceptable ideological path for a moment, put up a good fight with another alleged lefty, and ended up handed their hat and escorted out the door. That would IMHO, be the better reason to abandon a forum.