"Here's How You Get Ebola"

[hillbilly]

Originally Posted by nailer

The CDC's behind the curve readiness/response would have occurred regardless of which party was in charge. This is the alarm going off. Let's hope we are learning the right lessons and are on the way to implementing an effective strategy.

Both cases are less than 2 miles from me and I saw the media circus on the way to lunch.

And we all know how smart some reporters are. Come home from Ebola stricken area and go out for lunch.. even though one of the crew had already came down with it..

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by JBS...

But, But the CDC director Dr. Thomas "Big Gulp" Frieden says any hospital with an intensive care unit and isolation facilities could handle a patient with Ebola. More restrictive facilities are only needed for airborne pathogens...

And he vowed "We’re stopping it in its tracks" !!!

WTF does that have to do with my comment? Nothing...that's what. Nobody's suggesting that any good hospital can't manage an Ebola patient. I'm suggesting that any responsible member of any hospital board would oppose their hospital becoming an "Ebola only" hospital.

You appear to be as contextually challenged as Was.

[JBS...]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Regardless of what Was and Mike are trying to pitch...One can safely provide services to these people without showing up looking like Jeremy Renner in The Hurt Locker.

CIDRAP report:

"We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks."

[nailer]

Originally Posted by hillbilly

And we all know how smart some reporters are. Come home from Ebola sricken area and go out for lunch.. even though one of the crew had already came down with it..

Edited my post to clear up confusion. I was headed to lunch, not the media which was at The Village.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by JBS...

CIDRAP report:

"We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks."

The second nurse flew on Frontier the other day.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Y'know Was...you may have the most entertaining posts on this forum. So often, when I read one I feel like I passed out and came to in the aphasic's home. And on the Wernike's ward where everybody is babbling away but none of the words coming out make any sense. It's fun to read your stuff...although probably not in any way intended by you.

Not clear on the concept of context at times though, eh Was? Just a few pages back and a few days ago I attempted to present the point that much of the information we're reading about the transmission of Ebola is incorrect and that dressing people up like they're leaving the lunar lander for a moon walk isn't necessary and may make it more dangerous in some cases. That has nothing to do with my post above.

My comment in this thread is about, and in the context of, the fiscal responsibility that members of hospital boards of directors have. You don't want your hospital to be an "Ebola only hospital" because of the scary contagion factor. The contagion factor is the contagion factor. An Ebola only hospital is no longer doing neurosurgery, cardio/vascular surgery, orthopedic surgery...or any of the other complicated and expensive procedures that earn the big money for any hospital. I don't want my hospital losing money. It has nothing to do with mistakes made that get health workers infected...it has to do with the bottom line. If that's not what one is thinking about as a member of a hospital board of directors, one doesn't belong on a hospital board of directors.

It all comes down to the almighty dollar if you were a board member? How very free enterprise oriented of you! Hopefully those actually on those boards are more concerned with the public health than you are.

[piece-itpete]

Great. Cleveland's new jingle: we do not have jobs, we do have Ebola.

Pete

[JBS...]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Great. Cleveland's new jingle: we do not have jobs, we do have Ebola.

Pete

Yup, time to change those "The Buckeye State" licence plates to read "The Ebola State”

[hillbilly]

Originally Posted by nailer

Edited my post to clear up confusion. I was headed to lunch, not the media which was at The Village.

Oh no, I was just talking about that reporter that flew back to the states from the infected area and went to pick up food in NJ. One of their team had already came down with Ebola and the reporters had agreed not to go out in public until they were sure they were not going to get sick. Been all over the tv news channels. I'm just wondering how we can stop this if we can't keep people from putting others at risk after they know they've been exposed to it.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

It all comes down to the almighty dollar if you were a board member? How very free enterprise oriented of you! Hopefully those actually on those boards are more concerned with the public health than you are.

What it all comes down to the fiduciary responsibility of a member of any board of directors. If the board allows a hospital to take a course that is likely to bankrupt the hospital, it won't be there to serve anybody for very long. Which is not going to be very good for the public health you're suddenly so concerned with. But it's obvious from your comments that you don't have much personal experience with this sort of stuff.

If you actually gave a shit in Ben Casey's hat for public health, you'd be supporting a government sponsored single payer system of health care for everybody in this country.