18 and Dead.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

"was not" charging.

You left out the 'not.' She was asked that specifically, and said no.

The testimony is interesting in that she describes the 'hands up' move by Brown as just starting, and not getting past head level, before Brown was shot the final time. 'If the officer had been shooting lawfully,' he easily could not have had time to react--to process the hands-up move and cease fire--before firing that last shot(s).

'If the officer was shooting lawfully' remains a big question in my mind, however. She also describes him shooting at the fleeing Brown with his back to the officer.

Is firing like that considered OK in a residential neighborhood at noontime?

I understand if it's a life or death self defense situation, but firing after someone that is fleeing? Because he might assault someone else?

What about the might that a stray bullet hits a bystander?

[icenine]

I think the last shot to the skull was given as Brown was falling to the ground. And no attempt on the part of the Police Department to contradict this and lack of an incident report, in conjunction with a grand jury,
probably confirms no reliable "charging account." I think if Brown was charging there would have been no grand jury.

Firing in the car toward Brown during a struggle is one thing. Wilson should have stopped right there.
Firing into a man's head while he is in the act of falling is something else.

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by icenine

I think the last shot to the skull was given as Brown was falling to the ground. And no attempt on the part of the Police Department to contradict this and lack of an incident report, in conjunction with a grand jury,
probably confirms no reliable "charging account." I think if Brown was charging there would have been no grand jury.

Firing in the car toward Brown during a struggle is one thing. Wilson should have stopped right there.
Firing into a man's head while he is in the act of falling is something else.

Is it possible that the gun went off in the car accidentally during a struggle for possession of the gun?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by icenine

Firing into a man's head while he is in the act of falling is something else.

You're not firing into a man's head, you're firing at an assailant's center of mass until he drops.

That his head is where his chest used to be when you began firing is his fault for having made you shoot him.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by JJIII

Is it possible that the gun went off in the car accidentally during a struggle for possession of the gun?

Yes

however it would not really be ok to fire into a suspects skull while he is in the process of dropping to his knees after already being hit 4 or 5 times. The eyewitness reports tend to suggest that Brown was shot even while falling to the ground, perhaps after turning around and raising his hands in the air.

If you watch the Anderson Cooper interview on CNN with Michael Brady, who saw it from his house and front yard you will see what I am talking about.

You see now the Prosecuting Attorney may be using these eyewitness accounts to prove probable cause.


There is this meme that Brown was charging at the officer. From more than one eyewitness that does not appear to be the case.

[piece-itpete]

No evidence = policeman walks.

Pete

[Tom Joad]

Here's a link to a video of Michael Brady giving his account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYqrAhpo_w4

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

No evidence = policeman walks.

Pete

Nothing but the eyewitness accounts of some "entitled, angry and socially terrified" Knee-Grows and we all know they don't count.

Originally Posted by Zeke

When you're entitled, angry and socially terrified?

You blame others for problems that could be fixed if only you weren't entitled, angry and socially terrified.

[piece-itpete]

A cop? There'd need to be proof, I'd think.

Pete

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

A cop? There'd need to be proof, I'd think.

Pete

What is wrong with the eyewitness accounts I posted?