ferguson

[HarmanKardon]

"Krawalle in Ferguson: US-Polizei nimmt deutsche Journalisten fest!"

("Der Spiegel online")

So arresting German journalists in order to hold back a critical coverage is an extremely poor sign of "Krisenmanagement"!

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

"Krawalle in Ferguson: US-Polizei nimmt deutsche Journalisten fest!"

("Der Spiegel online")

So arresting German journalists in order to hold back a critical coverage is an extremely poor sign of "Krisenmanagement"!

I was watching CNN last night as the night went on and the participants in Ferguson decided they just couldn't manage an evening of reasonable demonstrations and just had to up the ante and get the teargas cannisters flying.

A reporter (and camera humper) were with a group of young guys behind a fence. And one of them was asked what he hoped to accomplish. Fascinating answer from one young fella (I paraphrase, but it's close)...

Guy: "I came here from Milwaukee to provide my support for the people of Ferguson."
Reporter: "Milwaukee's a long ride."
Guy: "We're being shot down every day on the streets of America and it has to stop."

That was pretty much it.

Of course nobody can disagree with Milwaukee guy. Young black men are definitely being gunned down every day on the streets of America. Question is, who are these victims and who is doing the gunning?

Us 2nd Amendment opponents often utilize one specific data point in our argument. That for every successful personal or home defense utilizing a handgun, there are 43 wrongful handgun deaths in this country. It's a powerful ratio.

I've been searching in vain to find a number for how many gang related murders of gangbangers by each other, and innocent victims caught in the crossfire between gangbangers there are for every wrongful police shooting of an unarmed, non-aggressive, compliant young black man in the streets of America. If somebody could help me out, that would be great.

I suspect the ratio will be just as powerful. And yet we have the shooting death of 16 year old Shaquise Buckner and we're still waiting for the first infuriated demonstrator to show up on the corner of 63rd and Halsted. -late edit- There's no money (ask Jesse Jackson) or fun (ask any looter) in organizing infuriated demonstrations directed at neighborhood scumbags who are the one's actually causing problems in the neighborhood.

[donquixote99]

See this column by Mary Sanchez on why you can't get good data on police use of excessive force:

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/op...le1225990.html

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

See this column by Mary Sanchez on why you can't get good data on police use of excessive force:

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/op...le1225990.html

Nice article. Questions though. Is there a formal database that provides numbers on simple non-police related homicides? We sure get plenty of data on that...most of it developed by independent organizations taking available data and organizing it. Where does that data come from? I suspect it comes from public record official police incident reports. Would there not be available data on the police use of deadly force in their official incident reports? Cops shoot somebody and they conveniently leave it out of the official report? Not buying it.

The data is there...it's up to those doing the analysis to decide if there was "excessive use of force". We got watchdog groups up the waz. They're not analyzing any of this data?

[4-2-7]

Looting is the goal!!!

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/16/crisis-in-ferguson/

St Louis County Police confirm at least 200 of their officers are on scene and helping handle the situation. They confirm the Domino’s Pizza on West Florissant was set fire and burned. They also confirm multiple businesses vandalized and looted. Unbelievably,

[4-2-7]

If the police start arresting these looters during the day because they are on video the protest at night will stop.


What did these store owners have to do with the shooting?
http://fox2now.com/2014/08/16/fergus...after-looting/

[Dondilion]

Kiev comes to town!

[HarmanKardon]

This is what the world watches in TV:

Ten minutes ago I have seen a 90 years old female protester - Holocaust surviver - tied up and arrested.

How insane is THAT?????????????????

[nailer]

TV is TV. It's an entertainment medium owned by very large corporations.

Human existence is chaotic. In it's own way this thread reflects Ferguson's chaos.

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by nailer

TV is TV. It's an entertainment medium owned by very large corporations.

Human existence is chaotic. In it's own way this thread reflects Ferguson's chaos.

Are you in a way justifying the arrest of this old lady?