The Affordable Care Act

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Happy Holidays, ich bin muss nach hause gehen, and dasvidaniya, to you Bob.

Dasvidaniya? Nicht!

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by icenine

no one ever has the same doctor

get real
the moment you need care beyond your local doc you need a spe************************t that you do not know from Adam

I can tell you do not know much about medicine

besides insurance companies usually determine who you see, right? even before Obamacare

Tell it!

[icenine]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Tell it!

oh by the way Obamacare is FIXED!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4508771.html

Obamacare is like not ever going away....

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by icenine

oh by the way Obamacare is FIXED!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4508771.html

Obamacare is like not ever going away....

And if I might remind everybody...the GOP knew it would never go away unless they won the Oval Office in 2012. Many were open about this and said that once it's fully activated in Jan 2013, it's all over for repeal.

So they will continue to try to screw with the funding but it's never going away now.

And any Americans who vote for some Senate or House candidate because he/she has promised to repeal Obamacare is a straight up sucker. The Ted Cruz's and Fred Upton's and any other GOP members of Congress are playing their constituents for suckers when they promise repeal of the ACA to whore up votes knowing all the while tkhat they can't ever keep the promise.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

And if I might remind everybody...the GOP knew it would never go away unless they won the Oval Office in 2012. Many were open about this and said that once it's fully activated in Jan 2013, it's all over for repeal.

So they will continue to try to screw with the funding but it's never going away now.

And any Americans who vote for some Senate or House candidate because he/she has promised to repeal Obamacare is a straight up sucker. The Ted Cruz's and Fred Upton's and any other GOP members of Congress are playing their constituents for suckers when they promise repeal of the ACA to whore up votes knowing all the while tkhat they can't ever keep the promise.

You're correct, PPACA will not be repealed. The party which can best articulate it's transition into single payer will be the winner.

As is, PPACA is simply eliminating the middle class, in particular the lower middle class. The people who have to write a check for all of this bullshit.

The Democrats are catching hell for taking a bad situation and making it worse...as they should. I'll admit, going from for profit health insurance to universal coverage is dificult, and will have to be handled in steps.

But this is a pretty piss poor first step.

Chas

[bobabode]

It'll get better in two or three years now that it's up and running and when it's no longer cheaper to take the penalty instead of buying in.

[BlueStreak]

The penalty.

I hear people bitching about it as if it's some sort of Inquisition era torture device.
But, I've heard it's like $95. Is that correct?

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

The penalty.

I hear people bitching about it as if it's some sort of Inquisition era torture device.
But, I've heard it's like $95. Is that correct?

Dave

Yep, 1st year $95 2nd year is $325, 3rd year is $700-IIRC. The Kenyan Mau Mau soshulist is easing it in on them. Just the head, the first year.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Charles

You're correct, PPACA will not be repealed. The party which can best articulate it's transition into single payer will be the winner.

As is, PPACA is simply eliminating the middle class, in particular the lower middle class. The people who have to write a check for all of this bullshit.

The Democrats are catching hell for taking a bad situation and making it worse...as they should. I'll admit, going from for profit health insurance to universal coverage is dificult, and will have to be handled in steps.

But this is a pretty piss poor first step.

Chas

The middle class was disappearing way before Obamacare Charles....you are just upset the Federal Reserve is 100 years old and that Obamacare is a year old

by the way Tea Party Republicans will not ever vote for single payer the Koch brothers will see to that

the tea baggers are being duped by emotion

I really love big government I think I will play lots of solitaire on my gubmint computer next Monday morning since it will be slow because of the holidays....

[Charles]

Originally Posted by bobabode

It'll get better in two or three years now that it's up and running and when it's no longer cheaper to take the penalty instead of buying in.

Even my Dad, who worked his way up from a truck driver to a business agent for the Teamsters in St. Louis, would have never considered a shake down of this magnitude.

You can only "lean" on so many people at one time.

Chas