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04-04-2019, 12:10 PM
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Jigsawed
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Wow, now we are invested in polls about the interpretation of Mueller.
The Democrats were led by their own to expect a certainty from Mueller especially on the issue of COLLUSION.
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04-04-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Wow, now we are invested in polls about the interpretation of Mueller.
The Democrats were led by their own to expect a certainty from Mueller especially on the issue of COLLUSION.
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So, you've seen Mueller's full report, then?
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04-04-2019, 05:27 PM
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The Barr-Shaped Cloud Over the Justice Department
The attorney general has made a total hash of the Mueller report, undermining the very department he runs.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...artment-226570
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Barr simply could have told Congress that he had received the report and would make a version available when he had completed his review and made appropriate redactions. He could have released Mueller’s principal findings, as he initially said he would do, without adding his own conclusion on obstruction of justice. Or he could have released one of the multiple summaries prepared by Mueller’s team while review of the full report continued. As a U.S. official briefed on the matter told the Post, “the front matter from each section could have been released immediately — or very quickly. It was done in a way that minimum redactions, if any, would have been necessary, and the work would have spoken for itself.”
Barr instead chose the one path that could call his behavior into question, while negating the entire reason for appointing a special counsel in the first place: to ensure that the taint of politics is removed from the Justice Department’s decision-making. That choice would be odd for any attorney general. It makes even less sense for one whose impartiality was questioned from the outset, given that he was chosen for the job after he wrote an unsolicited memo questioning some of the very foundations of the special counsel’s investigation.
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"Well, here's another fine mess you've gotten us into".
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04-04-2019, 05:39 PM
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The New York Times had no legitimate sources, which would be totally illegal, concerning the Mueller Report. In fact, they probably had no sources at all! They are a Fake News paper who have already been forced to apologize for their incorrect and very bad reporting on me!
8:04 AM - 4 Apr 2019
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This is what the likes of Tucker Carlson and Faux "News" would have us believe, and refuse to even question, unlike real journalism outlets. Too many fall for their lies, sadly, and believe this disgusting, lying pig.
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04-04-2019, 05:43 PM
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Mueller’s report offers a disturbing picture of President Donald Trump’s campaign’s interactions with Russian agents.
https://www.alternet.org/2019/04/mue...tion-nbc-news/
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New details are continuing to trickle out about findings in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
One day after some members of Mueller’s team began leaking their displeasure with Attorney General Bill Barr’s summary of their work, sources close to the investigation have told NBC News that Mueller’s report offers a disturbing picture of President Donald Trump’s campaign’s interactions with Russian agents.
In particular, NBC News’ Ken Dilanian reports that “some on the Mueller team say his findings paint a picture of a campaign whose members were manipulated by a sophisticated Russian intelligence operation.” They note, however, that “some of that information may be classified” and thus might not get released in the final report.
Additionally, Dilanian confirms that Mueller’s prosecutors believe that Barr significantly downplayed significant evidence of obstruction of justice presented in Mueller’s report, as they tell NBC News that “they believe the evidence is stronger than Barr suggested.”
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04-05-2019, 08:57 AM
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Rational Anarchist
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
The US was lax. China was not only an economic competitor, but also a potential military adversary and it was obvious that many of her companies were in fact ran by or connected to her military.
Now the US is telling China that it is not going to be business as usual, especially since US has realized what MADE IN CHINA 2025 is. The US has made certain strategic sectors off limits to Chinese business. This has support from both sides of the aisles.
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China has absorbed communism thus making it Chinese and they are now absorbing Capitalism. As such it appears they have abandoned the commie 5 year planning cycle and developed a 10 year plan using German planning as the model. Good idea given how the Germans play the international trade and finance game.
Is it wrong for China to improve the lives of their citizens by becoming competitive in high value added industries?
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04-05-2019, 09:22 AM
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It's not unreasonable to expect any rational entity to interact in it's own self-interest.
The ones that behave irrationally are to worry, that's the only reliable factor dealing with them
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04-05-2019, 09:35 AM
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No it isn't. Reading is fundamental to understanding.
Readers know how to write correctly. Poor writers are poor readers, and have opinions based on lesser ideas, from lesser sources, such as those with nefarious motives, Faux "News", for example, which is a huge source of utter garbage for millions of non-readers.
Tucker Carlson spews his poisonous ideas to non-readers, who haven't the understanding to determine that it's garbage. Sean Hannity, Rush Limblow, ditto. We're in a political crisis because of people who don't read, can't write, and are being led into voting utter morons to the presidency.
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Got it. If someone's writing doesn't meet your correct writing standards they don't read and are thus ignorant and susceptible to being mislead by others. Other than the absurdity of your grammar nazi viewpoint, you are correct to a certain extent. The path to power to a very large extent is based on fear and a primary way to generate and maintain fear in others is to play on their ignorance. The Republicans do indeed play this game. What you forget to mention is the Democrats play the ignorance/fear game too. After all, a significant portion of their base doesn't write correctly.
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04-05-2019, 09:37 AM
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Rational Anarchist
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Originally Posted by Pio1980
It's not unreasonable to expect any rational entity to interact in it's own self-interest.
The ones that behave irrationally are to worry, that's the only reliable factor dealing with them
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What's considered rational by one culture is often seen as irrational by another.
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04-05-2019, 10:47 AM
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Got it. If someone's writing doesn't meet your correct writing standards they don't read and are thus ignorant and susceptible to being mislead by others.
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The point was actually more in defense of real journalists. You know, those hard working, highly educated, low paid defenders of democracy, who endure threats from this disgusting president* and his low education, non reading followers daily.
To see someone who writes poorly, who regularly promotes a blowhard like Tucker Carlson announce that he “could have written that” is offensive to the highly educated journalists, including those in my family, whose job it is to defend democracy by keeping citizens aware, in as unbiased a way as possible. Exactly the opposite of the propaganda spewed by Carlson and his cronies at Faux “News”, a despicable, highly biased organization.
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