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05-12-2011, 01:36 PM
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It's a very big company, with a lot of employees too.
I'm not saying they're saintly...
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05-12-2011, 01:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
It's a very big company, with a lot of employees too.
I'm not saying they're saintly...
Pete
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So are they telling the truth to their investors or to the public?
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05-12-2011, 02:05 PM
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So seems how they make more profit than is the subsidy that is 8 cents for every dollar of sales, so they do not really need it, just how much tax payer subsidy is going to stockholders and how come them bus riding tea-whatevers aren't crying about their tax money going to the rich and corporates?
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05-12-2011, 02:06 PM
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% on sales is different than % on capitol investments.... Any company that could do both (very low margins, but big returns) is very efficient.
Even as a larger manufacturer/wholesaler if I'm at 8% I'm either desperate or sending a message.
Unless I'm missing something pretty big. Wouldn't be the first time
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05-12-2011, 02:50 PM
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Dude, volume, volume, volume. Can you say Wal-Mart? Can you say McDonalds? Can you say Exxon?
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05-12-2011, 03:05 PM
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Waul... waul... waallll... murt. Mert. Mart! Wal mart!
YES I CAN!
Pete
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05-12-2011, 04:50 PM
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8% return on sales is perfectly respectable for a large corporation. As a point of comparison, I just picked Caterpillar out of the blue and their net profit margin (Return on Sales) for the last five years has been (most recent first):
6.34% 2.76% 6.93% 7.88% 8.52%
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05-12-2011, 05:01 PM
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Other examples:
CVS:
3.55 3.74 3.66 3.44 3.09
Verizon:
2.39 3.39 6.60 5.91 7.03
WalMart:
3.91 3.54 3.34 3.40 3.27 3.59
General Electric:
11.62 10.66 15.54 22.25 21.02
More GE's numbers:
Return on equity (ROE) 9.79 9.40 16.63 19.22 18.55
Return on assets (ROA) 5.32 5.25 8.75 10.34 10.64
ExxonMobil:
Net profit margin 8.23 6.39 9.84 10.40 10.81
Return on equity (ROE) 20.74 17.44 40.03 33.35 34.70
Return on assets (ROA) 10.07 8.26 19.83 16.78 18.04
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05-13-2011, 09:05 AM
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I see. Those margins are foriegn to me.
Shows something about the economies of scale.
Pete
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