The Israelis have turned into Nazis.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I urge you (and all) to read the piece by Israeli historian Lee Mordechai I linked to in post 1 here. A good way to do that (avoids actually opening X) is to read it on the threadreader app. Here's link for that: https://t.co/w1s2cOYXBq

I've avoided this shitfilled thread because this fucking crap is beneath you, DonQ. I was hoping it would scroll down the list into oblivion.

Your title doesn't say some Israelis have become Nazis, it implies that all Israelis have become Nazis. It's a particularly nasty assertion. I really expected better from a longtime liberal.

The far left in this country act just like the far right. Fuck 'em both.

[Noogies]

Originally Posted by bobabode

The far left in this country act just like the far right. Fuck 'em both.

I don't think they're as much of an existential threat to the country, but otherwise ... amen.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by bobabode

I've avoided this shitfilled thread because this fucking crap is beneath you, DonQ. I was hoping it would scroll down the list into oblivion.

Your title doesn't say some Israelis have become Nazis, it implies that all Israelis have become Nazis. It's a particularly nasty assertion. I really expected better from a longtime liberal.

The far left in this country act just like the far right. Fuck 'em both.

You figure that's what I meant? Really? Then why does the link in the post you quoted go to a piece written by an Israeli?

I urge you to go back to ignoring this thread. It would be best for you and for me and for everyone. You myself and many others here are in the demographic that needs to watch their blood pressure.

[piece-itpete]

It's deeply insulting to many Jews, many who have casualties from the real Nazis in their past.

It also cheapens what the Nazis actually did.

Pete

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

It's deeply insulting to many Jews, many who have casualties from the real Nazis in their past.

It also cheapens what the Nazis actually did.

Pete

Refraining would cheapen what Israel is actually doing, in my opinion. And we are talking feelings/opinions here, not 'objective truth' or something.

Speaking of feelings, I'm willing to be civil and even compassionate with persons on the other side of this. I'm willing to make allowance for emotion and trauma as people called for the eradication of those they called animals and vermin. But bitter racist hate, whatever its antecedents, is bitter racist hate, and the State of Israel has, due to their superior resources, gone much further than their enemies in acting it out.

[piece-itpete]

I kinda understand what you're saying, but I'd argue your title adds to bitter racist hate, not combats it.

Speaking of facts vs feelings, the very worst act the Israeli army has done on their very worst day is nothing like what the Nazis did daily, not even the same planet. The best overview IMO is 'The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich' by Shirer, an oldie and 'goodie' (though it may make some throw up).

We need a new National Brotherhood Week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCveIYSwLqk

Pete

[Oerets]

We humans need to move on from this tribal hatred towards one another.

The U.S.A and the way it treated it's indigenous people has been used by many other countries as a blue print. Sure the US was not the first true, but one of the many countries in history to have use such tactics. Just a modern example to be copied.

Lumping what any country leaders do to another countries citizens. Blaming a race creed ethnic religion ..... when it is the leaders at fault.

Many innocent to suffer.

What Israel is doing IMHO most is justified and warranted. Their main opponent will not be happy with any peace with any Israeli it seems.

Are they being to tough?

That I don't know.
Just hate seeing the innocent suffering. Felling powerless hoping for and end to the suffering.

[BlueStreak]

I've read Bibis book, "Fighting Terrorism".

What did I learn?

Hamas isn't the only terrorist organization in Israel.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

It's deeply insulting to many Jews, many who have casualties from the real Nazis in their past.

It also cheapens what the Nazis actually did.

Pete

Unless it's true, then it's a warning.

Sometimes, it's not about what what someone has done but rather, their rhetoric, their platform, and what their intentions seem to be given the chance.
What appears when one "reads between the lines", so to speak.

It is not impossible for a group that has been horribly victimized in the past to become an aggressor or vice-versa. I hope this isn't the case, here. I've liked every Jewish person I've ever met. That would be very sad.


Okay, back outside. I have a construction project going on, today.

[bobabode]

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