The Era of Trump?

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So you are saying that an all-knowing God is too stupid to figure out whether your professed faith is real or contrived (as a cheap insurance policy)? Moreover, do you think Judgement Day is based upon what you claim to believe or your actual life history of deeds and misdeeds? FWIW, I do not believe any of this nonsense contrived by a weakening Roman Empire to assuage and control the masses.

I need a holiday greeting card; Sorry you chose to go to Hell.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

I need a holiday greeting card; Sorry you chose to go to Hell.

What do you mean 'chose?' God knowing everything that is going to happen means He knew it all before the creation. Everything that is going to happen is thus inherent in the creation. Predestination is a given, God is the one who did all the choosing by the way he created everything with perfect foreknowledge, and thus this is all His fault.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

What do you mean 'chose?' God knowing everything that is going to happen means He knew it all before the creation. Everything that is going to happen is thus inherent in the creation. Predestination is a given, God is the one who did all the choosing by the way he created everything with perfect foreknowledge, and thus this is all His fault.

Predestination is only half of a paradox. Lucifer has some autonomy, the left hand of God. People were given free will in order to 'return' to God on their own voltion.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Predestination is only half of a paradox. Lucifer has some autonomy, the left hand of God. People were given free will in order to 'return' to God on their own voltion.

That last part. Try telling that to those evangelical Christians bent on doing "God's will" to lead us all to christianity, whether we like it or not.

I saw a clip from "The Connors" where some young man replied in a conversation "I'm a Christian. I don't believe in violence against anyone".
Dan, the father in the show replied back "The crusades... that was you guys?".