FAKE NEWS EXPOSED: A Service of PoliticalChat.com

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by finnbow

They found no such thing. Indeed he showed coordination between the Trump campaign (Manafort, Gates, Stone) and Russian intelligence. What you're paraphrasing is Bill Barr's mischaracterization of the actual findings. And then he tasked Durham to seal the deal which proved a dismal, embarrassing failure.

Here's a really good wrap-up of l'affaire Durham should you be willing to be confronted by the facts.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022...-was-fake.html


Having two trials result in unanimous and complete acquittals in a matter of hours proves nothing other than these charges should never have been brought.

Like playing chess with a pigeon, still, we try.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Did you check under the bed last night for any scary evangelists?

I pity the credulous fools. Rather than resenting being conned by Trump and the grifters they call their "religious" leaders, they revel in their hatred and intolerance, ignorant of the fact that the tenets of Trumpism and Flynn's Christian Nationalism run counter to pretty much everything that Jesus or the Bible ever said.

I may have missed it, but I don't recall that Flynn is running for anything.

Indeed. He's more into the "Onward Christian Soldiers" armed insurrection mode.

[Oerets]

We have witnessed what losing one election and the results.

This cult will have to run it course.

Just today at the Y a group of this brainwashed zombies cult were repeating the conspiracies and lies. Full of hatred and anger at any and all who do not think like them.

Learned they call MSMBC MSLSD as the were making their remarks as I watched the channel.
Making fun of Biden and Fetterman. How beautiful Lake is ...

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I pity the credulous fools. Rather than resenting being conned by Trump and the grifters they call their "religious" leaders, they revel in their hatred and intolerance, ignorant of the fact that the tenets of Trumpism and Flynn's Christian Nationalism run counter to pretty much everything that Jesus or the Bible ever said.



Indeed. He's more into the "Onward Christian Soldiers" armed insurrection mode.

He's not revving those loons up simply because he has nothing better to do with his time.

[finnbow]

What has happened in America is that we have a two-tier system of (journalism) standards. We expect “real journalists” to tell us what they really think. Imperfectly, and with some biases; we know they do and will make mistakes and all that. Granted. But what we expect from “conservative journalists” is entirely different. We expect them to act as perpetual propagandists for their team. Those expectations are baked into the culture, on both sides. No one questions them.

https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/jo...he-medias-2024

And that, my friends, forms the entire basis of this thread that Whell started. He only criticizes the MSM for being less than perfect while ignoring mainstream wingnut media (e.g., Fox News) and their daily shameless, deliberate lies and propaganda.

[donquixote99]

Does more than ignore them, he denies them, parroting the lie that Fox News is fair and balanced.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

What has happened in America is that we have a two-tier system of (journalism) standards. We expect “real journalists” to tell us what they really think. Imperfectly, and with some biases; we know they do and will make mistakes and all that. Granted. But what we expect from “conservative journalists” is entirely different. We expect them to act as perpetual propagandists for their team. Those expectations are baked into the culture, on both sides. No one questions them.

https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/jo...he-medias-2024

And that, my friends, forms the entire basis of this thread that Whell started. He only criticizes the MSM for being less than perfect while ignoring mainstream wingnut media (e.g., Fox News) and their daily shameless, deliberate lies and propaganda.

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Does more than ignore them, he denies them, parroting the lie that Fox News is fair and balanced.

In fact, I reference Fox News and/or conservatively-slanted news outlets nowhere in this thread as best I can recall. That said, this thread goes back years and stands currently at 268 pages, so I'm not going back and double-checking.

This thread was begun in the wake of the 2016 election, where news outlets and polling consistently reported a significant lead for Clinton over Trump.
So, yeah, it was an indictment of what continues to be a media that is not interested in reporting a news story, but more interested in pushing narratives.

If you're looking for recent examples if this, I love this comparison:

Major media sources, including the Washington Post, continue to refer to any attempts to question the 2020 election as "the Big Lie". I love the purposeful hijack of what previously had been a Joseph Goebbels reference.

However, underneath that pious veneer, there's this, which I find hilarious:

If you insist that the 2020 election was stolen, you’ll be accused of pushing “the big lie,” inciting an insurrection, and attacking democracy.

But if you believe that Hillary Clinton was the legitimate winner of the 2016 election, that just makes you a Democrat.

...according to a new Rasmussen Reports survey, 72% of Democrats still believe that Russia “succeeded” in altering the outcome of the 2016 election, putting Donald Trump in the White House.

As usual, the media (and likely some of you guys) want to have it both ways.

Anyone who has questions about the 2020 election is an "election denier", a right-wing propagandist", or any other number of colorful adjectives that you folks dream up. But Hillary can refer to Trump as an "illegitimate president" and whine about the election being stolen, the friendly media gives her a pass...likely because they agree with her.

Fake news continues to propagate thanks to our "unbiased" media.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Does more than ignore them, he denies them, parroting the lie that Fox News is fair and balanced.

FAUX "news" doesn't even claim to be "fair and balanced" anymore

whell, care to present examples of Hillary whining about the 2016 election being stolen then juxtapose that with DJT's continuing nationwide grievance tour of spouting the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him. For bonus points point to Hillary constantly soliciting funds to "Save America"? For extra bonus points cite where Hillary refused to cede the election to Donny.
I'll wait.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

In fact, I reference Fox News and/or conservatively-slanted news outlets nowhere in this thread as best I can recall. That said, this thread goes back years and stands currently at 268 pages, so I'm not going back and double-checking.

This thread was begun in the wake of the 2016 election, where news outlets and polling consistently reported a significant lead for Clinton over Trump.
So, yeah, it was an indictment of what continues to be a media that is not interested in reporting a news story, but more interested in pushing narratives.

If you're looking for recent examples if this, I love this comparison:

Major media sources, including the Washington Post, continue to refer to any attempts to question the 2020 election as "the Big Lie". I love the purposeful hijack of what previously had been a Joseph Goebbels reference.

However, underneath that pious veneer, there's this, which I find hilarious:

If you insist that the 2020 election was stolen, you’ll be accused of pushing “the big lie,” inciting an insurrection, and attacking democracy.

But if you believe that Hillary Clinton was the legitimate winner of the 2016 election, that just makes you a Democrat.


...according to a new Rasmussen Reports survey, 72% of Democrats still believe that Russia “succeeded” in altering the outcome of the 2016 election, putting Donald Trump in the White House.

As usual, the media (and likely some of you guys) want to have it both ways.

Anyone who has questions about the 2020 election is an "election denier", a right-wing propagandist", or any other number of colorful adjectives that you folks dream up. But Hillary can refer to Trump as an "illegitimate president" and whine about the election being stolen, the friendly media gives her a pass...likely because they agree with her.

Fake news continues to propagate thanks to our "unbiased" media.

Funny how Ms. Clinton conceded the next day and attended Trump's coronation while your boy couldn't sum up the courage to do the same when he lost to Biden. smh

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

In fact, I reference Fox News and/or conservatively-slanted news outlets nowhere in this thread as best I can recall. That said, this thread goes back years and stands currently at 268 pages, so I'm not going back and double-checking.

This thread was begun in the wake of the 2016 election, where news outlets and polling consistently reported a significant lead for Clinton over Trump.
So, yeah, it was an indictment of what continues to be a media that is not interested in reporting a news story, but more interested in pushing narratives.

If you're looking for recent examples if this, I love this comparison:

Major media sources, including the Washington Post, continue to refer to any attempts to question the 2020 election as "the Big Lie". I love the purposeful hijack of what previously had been a Joseph Goebbels reference.

However, underneath that pious veneer, there's this, which I find hilarious:

If you insist that the 2020 election was stolen, you’ll be accused of pushing “the big lie,” inciting an insurrection, and attacking democracy.

But if you believe that Hillary Clinton was the legitimate winner of the 2016 election, that just makes you a Democrat.

...according to a new Rasmussen Reports survey, 72% of Democrats still believe that Russia “succeeded” in altering the outcome of the 2016 election, putting Donald Trump in the White House.

As usual, the media (and likely some of you guys) want to have it both ways.

Anyone who has questions about the 2020 election is an "election denier", a right-wing propagandist", or any other number of colorful adjectives that you folks dream up. But Hillary can refer to Trump as an "illegitimate president" and whine about the election being stolen, the friendly media gives her a pass...likely because they agree with her.

Fake news continues to propagate thanks to our "unbiased" media.

Once again, the length of your response correlates directly to its speciousness.

Two quick undisputed facts -

Russia did indeed interfere in the 2016 election with the specific purpose of getting Trump, a Putin fanboy with an ongoing (and undisclosed) hotel deal in Moscow, elected with the encouragement, acquiescence and apparent cooperation of the Trump campaign (Manafort, Gates, Stone).

Trump did not win the 2020 election yet he persisted in telling the lie that he did despite knowing full well that he lost and that lie resulted in a violent insurrection against the US government that he actively encouraged and idly sat back and let unfold.

And for the most part, the MSM reported these undisputed facts correctly while Fox News didn't.