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08-27-2022, 11:56 AM
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In short, Trump's "Stop the Steal" efforts were themselves aimed at stealing the election.
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Stop the Steal is code for Steal the Votes, or for plausible deniability, "Find the Votes". It both angers and saddens me that well informed and/or educated actually believe in Trumps' lies time after time after time, and there is no antidote for this. Truth shall set you free is far from the truth for the GPP since they are for freedumb, not freedom. A person I know quite well and who is very well educated claimed that the only reason that no one could find fraud in the 2020 election because no looked deep enough. In fact he even asked me, "don't you want to know if our elections are fraud free?" Told him not if Trump's people are looking for it like Giuliani, Flynn and Powell.
And yes, Faux is on TV 24/7 in his home too and that seems to be the common denominator.
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08-27-2022, 12:17 PM
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No, the folks who put other folks in danger on Jan 6th and trashed the Capital were not "patriots", and have earned whatever legal fate awaits them. Yes, many of the folks who were in DC were there to peacefully protest, and then things got way, way out of control.
Does that cover it?
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No, it does not cover everything. How did things got way, way out of control? That is what the J6 committee is trying to find out and you are trying to dismiss this like an act of a few hooligans.
You could have saved yourself any discomfort by adopting the GOP line, their com patriots people were peaceful visitors there to be part of the vote counting ceremony and the Capitol Police invited them in.
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08-27-2022, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
Stop the Steal is code for Steal the Votes, or for plausible deniability, "Find the Votes". It both angers and saddens me that well informed and/or educated actually believe in Trumps' lies time after time after time, and there is no antidote for this. Truth shall set you free is far from the truth for the GPP since they are for freedumb, not freedom. A person I know quite well and who is very well educated claimed that the only reason that no one could find fraud in the 2020 election because no looked deep enough. In fact he even asked me, "don't you want to know if our elections are fraud free?" Told him not if Trump's people are looking for it like Giuliani, Flynn and Powell.
And yes, Faux is on TV 24/7 in his home too and that seems to be the common denominator.
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08-27-2022, 05:11 PM
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‘Unbelievable’ is right when it comes to Trump’s staggering hypocrisy over documents
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/a...264954309.html
Whell is a hypocrite, clearly. But he's a piker compared to his Dear Leader and his enablers.
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08-28-2022, 11:25 AM
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Faux “News” Fired Me After I Said Biden Won. That Wasn’t the Worst of It.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...alism-00053991
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08-28-2022, 12:15 PM
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This is Mob Rule and follows the path anti-abortionists have taken.
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08-29-2022, 09:26 AM
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OMG...an opinion column attempting to draw a comparison to Hillary trafficking classified documents on a home server that was exposed to hackers with some boxes of potentially classified documents under padlock at Trumps home. Weak sauce, dude.
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08-29-2022, 09:28 AM
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No, it does not cover everything. How did things got way, way out of control? That is what the J6 committee is trying to find out ...
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The Star Chamber isn't interested in "finding out". It's a sham "investigation" for public consumption that has a political agenda.
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08-29-2022, 10:22 AM
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The Star Chamber isn't interested in "finding out". It's a sham "investigation" for public consumption that has a political agenda.
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...and you whine like a baby when someone calls you a Trumpkin, lol. You're a piece of work.
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08-29-2022, 10:24 AM
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The Star Chamber isn't interested in "finding out". It's a sham "investigation" for public consumption that has a political agenda.
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Actually, it's Republicans who don't want to find out. Otherwise, they would have agreed with the bipartisan independent commission that Rep. John Katko (R-NY) helped negotiate and that many in the GOP supported up until having to actually vote on it.
As for it being political, investigating a conspiracy by Trump, GOP politicians, outside lawyers, fake electors and a corrupt DOJ official (all Republicans) to steal an election is inherently political. For that matter, every single thing that has ever happened on Capitol Hill is, by definition, political. Your assertion that politics are happening on Capitol Hill reminds me of the famous quote from Casablanca("I'm shocked, shocked, to find that gambling is going on in here.")
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