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[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

GM stock is about to dust Tesla stock, analyst says

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-st...183227042.html



Whell, as always, is full of crap.

Your post contradicts nothing I've posted here. But, if you want to think so, more power to you.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Chicks

GM stock is about to dust Tesla stock, analyst says

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-st...183227042.html



Whell, as always, is full of crap.

IIRC, Honda is at $37Billion, all for electric and is collaborating with GM Cruise, and GM Cruise spent/spending $2Billion this year, of which I believe $10,000 is earmarked for funding MSU.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Great. We'll see if that's how things actually turn out...

The fact remains that numerous GOP politicians and their compliant echo-chamber media did indeed claim on multiple occasions that there would be 87,000 new armed agents (a "new army") who who raid and even murder delinquent taxpayers, notwithstanding the fact that the IRS (and other government agencies) have had armed special agents for years (including under the Trump administration) and the fact that a very small percentage of the 87,000 were actually Special Agents.

And the whole point of these orchestrated lies was to discredit and sow fear about the Inflation Reduction Act, a law whose component parts enjoy significant support by voters but was opposed by every GOP congresscritter. There was no attempt by GOP politicians nor wingnut news to actually get the story right. The intention was to stir up fear with their lies (aka "fake news").

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The intention was to stir up fear with their lies (aka "fake news").

In the grand scheme this is pretty minor stuff compared to some of the messaging your Dem friends have pulled out over the years. In fact, politicians of all stripes have used fear as a motivator to fire up their respective bases since forever. For you to focus on this particular example is kinda funny. To use it as an example of fake news is disingenuous.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

In the grand scheme this is pretty minor stuff compared to some of the messaging your Dem friends have pulled out over the years. In fact, politicians of all stripes have used fear as a motivator to fire up their respective bases since forever. For you to focus on this particular example is kinda funny. To use it as an example of fake news is disingenuous.

So, you lose an argument and, as a result, you characterize the GOP and its compliant "news" sources falsely accusing the Biden administration of planning to field a new army of 87,000 armed agents intent upon murdering delinquent taxpayers as "pretty minor stuff." LOL.

BTW, the original impetus of this thread of yours was to poo poo the Russia investigation and any other criticism of Trump. Just today, it was revealed in an appeals court decision that Barr lied to Congress and the public about whether Trump deserved to be prosecuted for obstruction of justice in the Mueller probe.
http://www.politicalchat.org/showthr...567#post409567

So, you carry water for Barr's lies and then describe lies about Biden's plans to murder taxpayers as "pretty minor stuff." And you wonder why I contend that you argue in bad faith.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, you lose an argument and, as a result, you characterize the GOP and its compliant "news" sources falsely accusing the Biden administration of planning to field a new army of 87,000 armed agents intent upon murdering delinquent taxpayers as "pretty minor stuff." LOL.

BTW, the original impetus of this thread of yours was to poo poo the Russia investigation and any other criticism of Trump. Just today, it was revealed in an appeals court decision that Barr lied to Congress and the public about whether Trump deserved to be prosecuted for obstruction of justice in the Mueller probe.
http://www.politicalchat.org/showthr...567#post409567

So, you carry water for Barr's lies and then describe lies about Biden's plans to murder taxpayers as "pretty minor stuff." And you wonder why I contend that you argue in bad faith.

Yeah I say that post. CNN's, and your, characterization that "Barr lied" is, at best an exaggeration and at worst, its own lie. So please keep your hypocrisy in check.

Here you are quoting article from Dem water-carrying news outlet, about the actions of whack-job David Brock's group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW). In the article, CNN refers to CREW as a heroic sounding "government watchdog group). CREW is no such damn thing. Even the left of center NY Times calls them a "liberal government watchdog group", as do your pals at WaPo

Further, you state Barr "lied". But I see no such statement of "lying" in the article. At issue is how Barr described a redacted internal communication, and the DC Appeals Court - not exactly a neutral body - disagreed with that characterization and ordered the full memo released. So, we'll see.

[Pio1980]

Barr knows what Trump is, but still wallows in his stench because believes in a strong executive, and has molded false narratives to support that as personified in a proven unqualified unfit former one term rejected potus.
That's incrediblity personified.

[Chicks]

'Deeply dangerous nonsense': Treasury Dept. debunks GOP lies about 87,000 armed IRS agents

https://www.rawstory.com/irs-agent/

Exactly the sort of nonsense Whell and his far-Reich nutjob pals buy into, every day. Sad!

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Yeah I say that post. CNN's, and your, characterization that "Barr lied" is, at best an exaggeration and at worst, its own lie. So please keep your hypocrisy in check.

Here you are quoting article from Dem water-carrying news outlet, about the actions of whack-job David Brock's group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW). In the article, CNN refers to CREW as a heroic sounding "government watchdog group). CREW is no such damn thing. Even the left of center NY Times calls them a "liberal government watchdog group", as do your pals at WaPo

Further, you state Barr "lied". But I see no such statement of "lying" in the article. At issue is how Barr described a redacted internal communication, and the DC Appeals Court - not exactly a neutral body - disagreed with that characterization and ordered the full memo released. So, we'll see.

So, every court decision that doesn't go the Lying Dotard's way is due to liberal bias? I guess Trump and his minions should be more careful about where they choose to break the law and/or lie to the American people. Four different judges (one at District level, all 3 at Appellate level) found that found that Barr lied about having actually deliberated over whether to prosecute Trump for obstruction. He didn't deliberate. He had already decided not to prosecute Trump before he even had the OLC look into it and then overly redacted the OLC memo to cover up his perfidy. He testified to Congress about his "deliberation" which didn't actually happen (i.e., he lied).

In the judge's words “The agency’s redactions and incomplete explanations obfuscate the true purpose of the memorandum, and the excised portions belie the notion that it fell to the Attorney General to make a prosecution decision or that any such decision was on the table at any time.” (In non-lawyer speak, Barr lied about having objectively deliberated). She also castigated the government saying that CREW’s assessment of the memo “was considerably more accurate than the one supplied by the Department” even though the nonprofit “had never laid eyes on the document.” So, CREW (who you criticized) was more credible than Barr's DOJ even though it didn't have full access to underlying materials.

Anybody with half a brain recognized full well that Barr's preemptive characterization of the Mueller report was a dishonest attempt to undermine it. Even the normally taciturn Mueller wrote that Barr's summary of the Mueller investigation "did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office's work and conclusions."

I understand that your characterization of the whole Mueller investigation as a hoax (no collusion, no obstruction) and your faith in Trump's rectitude has been dashed by what we know about Roger Stone and Paul Manafort (collusion) and now this (obstruction) as well as Barr's efforts thru Durham to undermine the investigation's predicate (not a witch hunt). Your cognitive dissonance must be in overdrive.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, every court decision that doesn't go the Lying Dotard's way is due to liberal bias? I guess Trump and his minions should be more careful about where they choose to break the law and/or lie to the American people. Four different judges (one at District level, all 3 at Appellate level) found that found that Barr lied about having actually deliberated over whether to prosecute Trump for obstruction. He didn't deliberate. He had already decided not to prosecute Trump before he even had the OLC look into it and then overly redacted the OLC memo to cover up his perfidy. He testified to Congress about his "deliberation" which didn't actually happen (i.e., he lied).

Anybody with half a brain recognized full well that Barr's preemptive characterization of the Mueller report was a dishonest attempt to undermine it. Even the normally taciturn Mueller wrote that Barr's summary of the Mueller investigation "did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office's work and conclusions."

I understand that your characterization of the whole Mueller investigation as a hoax (no collusion, no obstruction) has been dashed by what we know about Roger Stone and Paul Manafort (collusion) and now this (obstruction) as well as Barr's efforts thru Durham to undermine the investigation's predicate (witch hunt). Sad.

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