All things considered...Satanism anyone ?

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

Perhaps you should look up the definition of atheism.

I'm fully aware of the definition of 'atheism'.

I understand the agnostic POV, and even the more esoteric Gnostic POV.

All replies so far are based on the (imho) erroneous assumption that 'God' is a psychological construct of the human mind, rather than reality.

[nailer]

Reality is a subjective phenomena.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by nailer

Reality is a subjective phenomena.

Touche.

There is a material or physical aspect to it, however. The creation, or physical world is, for the most part, undeniable. Solipsists may claim otherwise.

[nailer]

The Universe is.

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by nailer

Reality is a subjective phenomena.

Yes, to the extent that we interpret the world individually and, as pattern-seeking primates, put together our individual interpretations differently.

But physical laws of the natural world are not subjective. You may have a different subjective interpretation from mine of what will happen to you if jump off a cliff but physics operates the same for both of us.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

Yes, to the extent that we interpret the world individually and, as pattern-seeking primates, put together our individual interpretations differently.

But physical laws of the natural world are not subjective. You may have a different subjective interpretation from mine of what will happen to you if jump off a cliff but physics operates the same for both of us.

Other than a mildly condescending lecture regarding things I'm already aware of, what's your point?

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by nailer

Other than a mildly condescending lecture regarding things I'm already aware of, what's your point?

Not trying to condescend, but when you post so tersely you might want to cut others a break if they don't get your meaning. I'm saying some aspects of reality are subjective, others not.

What do YOU mean when you say reality is subjective?

[nailer]

Reality is subjective and the Universe is. That's my point. Cryptic, not terse.

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by nailer

Reality is subjective and the Universe is. That's my point. Cryptic, not terse.

You say cryptic, I say vague. Either way, without elaboration it doesn't really advance the conversation.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by nailer

Reality is subjective and the Universe is. That's my point. Cryptic, not terse.

Chuckle, you've been in Texas for too long, Hoss.