Our Police State

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Is your brother a police officer or something? Making excuses for this shooting is frankly appalling.

I find your rush to judgement appalling. Your arrogance appalling.
Your high horse a freakin joke,

and no, I am no cop apologist and generally have a rather jaundice view of them...

That said, we now see all interventions with police though the glasses of "the cop is in the wrong." That is just as bad as looking the other way when a cop kneels on a victims neck and kills them.

I call a spade a spade, you are locked into your tribe dogma, you are as bad as a TRumpet.

Appalling really.

[nailer]

Nice point.

Label our mostly contrived divide red/blue, left/right, conservative/liberal, or Democrat/Republican, it's the ages old us/them game. We're just playing the American Fascism edition.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I find your rush to judgement appalling. Your arrogance appalling.
Your high horse a freakin joke,

and no, I am no cop apologist and generally have a rather jaundice view of them...

That said, we now see all interventions with police though the glasses of "the cop is in the wrong." That is just as bad as looking the other way when a cop kneels on a victims neck and kills them.

I call a spade a spade, you are locked into your tribe dogma, you are as bad as a TRumpet.

Appalling really.

Oh, did I rush to judgement? On a message board? I suppose in my very wildest imagination I might be able to come up with a possible good justification for shooting a fleeing, unarmed 13-year-old whose underlying crime was disorderly conduct. But I see nothing to indicate such an effort is called -for. Put me on the jury and I will calm down and open my mind, as would be my duty in that case. But as just a person with opinions, this seems pretty blatantly outrageous to me, always subject to further evidence.

Do want to apologize though for getting a bit personal above. Your recent reactions have startled me a little, I had thought we were a lot on the same page. But my startledness is my problem, will try to watch that sort of thing in the future.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Oh, did I rush to judgement? On a message board? I suppose in my very wildest imagination I might be able to come up with a possible good justification for shooting a fleeing, unarmed 13-year-old whose underlying crime was disorderly conduct. But I see nothing to indicate such an effort is called -for. Put me on the jury and I will calm down and open my mind, as would be my duty in that case. But as just a person with opinions, this seems pretty blatantly outrageous to me, always subject to further evidence.

Do want to apologize though for getting a bit personal above. Your recent reactions have startled me a little, I had thought we were a lot on the same page. But my startledness is my problem, will try to watch that sort of thing in the future.

fair enough

You will find my views very independent from tribe.

Right or wrong, I do not parrot. It got me run off here a few years ago... I get attacked from both sides for not "joining a tribe."

It's the price I pay.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by noonereal

That said, we now see all interventions with police though the glasses of "the cop is in the wrong."

Nah bud, cop shoots a person (victim not a suspect) who is unarmed while fleeing. The cop is in the wrong. I'll stand by my comment unless bodycam footage shows otherwise. The statement supplied by the police means nothing to me. Their first reply is almost always a lie.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Nah bud, cop shoots a person (victim not a suspect) who is unarmed while fleeing. The cop is in the wrong. I'll stand by my comment unless bodycam footage shows otherwise. The statement supplied by the police means nothing to me. Their first reply is almost always a lie.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but a car is considered a lethal weapon. So if a guy is trying to flee by getting in a car in an attempt to operate it, he's gonna get shot, and rightly so.