Another church mass killing

[Rajoo]

whell, please establish your credibility in this discussion.
Trump blamed the shooting on the killer's mental health. Yet Trump rolled back the very regulation that could have prevented a demented individual from possessing guns.

All you have a good is guy bad guy excuse which in itself is weak.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Worse yet, Trump quietly revoked an Obama Executive Order aimed at preventing mentally ill people from getting guns.

President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mental-n727221

Speaking of shills, got any more irrelevant BS you wanna sling?

Tell me how this "Obama - era EO" would have stopped yesterday's shooting, or kept DP Kelly from getting a gun?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/dev...ect/index.html

Kelley purchased the Ruger AR-556 rifle in April 2016 from an Academy Sports & Outdoors store in San Antonio, a law enforcement official told CNN.
When Kelley filled out the background check paperwork at the store, he checked the box to indicate he didn't have disqualifying criminal history, the official said. He listed an address in Colorado Springs, Colorado when he bought the rifle, the official said.

No criminal history. No history of mental illness. Was apparently "unknown to police". And as to your post of the irrelevant news item above, would not have been receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses. As far as people "deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs", at least at this point there's no information out there that a court appointed someone else to handle Kelly's financial affairs.

But he, keep slingin' the crap, Finn....

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

whell, please establish your credibility in this discussion.
Trump blamed the shooting on the killer's mental health. Yet Trump rolled back the very regulation that could have prevented a demented individual from possessing guns.

All you have a good is guy bad guy excuse which in itself is weak.

See my post above. Maybe you and Finn can get together and come up with some angle that would support your tenuous suggestion that the "very regulation that could have prevented a demented individual from possessing guns" that Finn cited would have any bearing on this case.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by whell

On the other hand, by post #2 in this thread, we had already moved past sympathy for the victims and jumped right into politicizing this tragedy. That may be a new record. Congrats!

So, so sad for the families of the victims. Sounds like the motivation of the shooter, beyond any psychological issues he may have had, was a significant anti-religious bias..

There's a sympathy cards only thread over at AK, here we can dig deeper and speculate on causes and approaches to these events.

[Chicks]

Always amusing when Whell, a regular MSM basher for their “liberal bias”, posts links from NYT, CNN and WaPo to back him up. Lol. Can you spell “hypocrite”, boys and girls? I know you can...

[Pio1980]

From Whell's post, 'must' reading;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-atheism.html

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

See my post above. Maybe you and Finn can get together and come up with some angle that would support your tenuous suggestion that the "very regulation that could have prevented a demented individual from possessing guns" that Finn cited would have any bearing on this case.

Your moron in chief claimed mental health without any background information on the killer. So the argument here is that this is coming from the same moron who rolled back these provisions from the gun legislation that was passed post Sandy Hook.

So my question is where is the credibility here for Trump, GOP and you who seems to be championing their causes relentlessly?

Remember the Kenny Rogers lyrics, "Know when to hold them, know when to fold them...............", the time is here and now.

[Pio1980]

The second amendment has become a religion in itself with a statistical minority advocating a no limitations interpretation. As a result, we have a virtually unrestricted massive open distribution of military grade high capacity rapid fire tactical weaponry to all comers.
So, what exactly is the purpose of the second? It is simply concisely enumerated in the first of the three parts.
It's past time to revaluate it in light of it's present purpose and place in our laws and our lives.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The second amendment has become a religion in itself with a statistical minority.
So, what exactly is the purpose of the second? It is simply concisely enumerated in the first of the three parts.
It's past time to revaluate it in light of it's present purpose and place in our laws and our lives.

The Second Amendment has become a marketing tool for the gun manufacturers with the NRA acting as their lobbyists. So unless and until the NRA membership looks at carnage caused by out of control gun ownership, mass killings and hand wringing will continue. Fear for me now is that this is going to lead to copycat killings, especially since the killers motives can only be speculated.

Wondering this morning if video games contributing to this. what would possess someone to kill innocent people in a place of worship.

[Rajoo]

President Trump appeared to try to preemptively steer the debate away from gun control after the slayings. At a news conference in Tokyo, Trump said he thought “mental health” was a possible motive, adding that it appeared the shooter was “a very deranged individual, a lot of problems for a long period of time.” He did not provide further explanation.

The incident “isn’t a guns situation,” Trump said. Referencing the armed civilian that apparently exchanged shots with the attacker, Trump said: “Fortunately someone else had a gun that was shooting in the opposite direction” or the rampage “would have been much worse.”

Now I know where you got your talking points whell, a man who seldom if at all tells the truth. this is KG level stuff.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.bf23e101bf33