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09-16-2016, 05:26 PM
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All I will say here is that both Trump and Hillary bring out the worst in people and both sides are dug in. And as long as Hillary's strategy is to dump on Trump, his supporters and her detractors, this is only helping Trump. But then it is so easy to criticize than look into the mirror.
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09-16-2016, 05:30 PM
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Have you read any of Joad's "cankles" jokes? 
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I am so ashamed.
I should be more of a goody two shoes like you, who of course has never insulted Trump's appearance.
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09-16-2016, 05:31 PM
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I'm glad one of you men stated Joad's misogynist tendencies. While it is very obvious, I knew I couldn't be the one to point it out.
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I expect the majority of people on this forum to label me a misogynist.
In fact, I would be disappointed if they didn't.
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09-16-2016, 06:24 PM
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I expect the majority of people on this forum to label me a misogynist.
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Promise to vote for Hillary and all will be forgotten, even forgiven, though your vote has no intrinsic value.
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09-16-2016, 06:53 PM
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Promise to vote for Hillary and all will be forgotten, even forgiven, though your vote has no intrinsic value. 
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The point is not one vote, brother. The point is the state of your soul.
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09-16-2016, 06:57 PM
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All I will say here is that both Trump and Hillary bring out the worst in people and both sides are dug in. And as long as Hillary's strategy is to dump on Trump, his supporters and her detractors, this is only helping Trump. But then it is so easy to criticize than look into the mirror.
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...as if Trump isn't constantly dumping on Clinton....
Both sides need to check out the reflection in the mirror.
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09-16-2016, 07:20 PM
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I said ages ago that in my opinion, Hillary's best strategy was NOT to focus on Trump, but to go positive, focusing on her ability to deliver good policy.
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09-16-2016, 07:44 PM
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I said ages ago that in my opinion, Hillary's best strategy was NOT to focus on Trump, but to go positive, focusing on her ability to deliver good policy.
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But she won't because her political instincts are terrible.
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09-16-2016, 08:27 PM
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...as if Trump isn't constantly dumping on Clinton....
Both sides need to check out the reflection in the mirror.
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It's killing Hillary and helping Trump. People expect the worst from Trump, so it's not big news. Hillary, surrounds herself with controversy and perks the interest of the people.
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I said ages ago that in my opinion, Hillary's best strategy was NOT to focus on Trump, but to go positive, focusing on her ability to deliver good policy.
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Not loud enough would be my guess. I think Colin Powell explained her motivations the best in the hacked emails.
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But she won't because her political instincts are terrible.
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True and a lousy campaigner to boot with no charisma. Laying underground was the worst strategy since her negatives were brought to the fore and she did nothing to defend herself.
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09-16-2016, 08:30 PM
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I just saw Bernie do an interview on 'All In with Chris Hayes' tonight. He was pretty good. He's hitting the college circuit to fire up the kids for Clinton.
I guess Hillary can release the hostages now.
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