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And yet those who have been screaming the loudest about gov collusion with big biz are backing a candidate who's owned by big biz.
Whether Hillary is "owned by big biz" is a debatable point. What's inarguable is the fact that her opponent is big business.
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Whether Hillary is "owned by big biz" is a debatable point. What's inarguable is the fact that her opponent is big business.
One is being propped up, the other stands on his own. Literally and figuratively.
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One is being propped up, the other stands on his own. Literally and figuratively.
No, he doesn't. He's dependent on other capitalists to fund his enterprises.
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No, he doesn't. He's dependent on other capitalists to fund his enterprises.
Capitalists and Russian oligarchs, I'm guessing but who knows, he won't release his taxes.
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No, he doesn't. He's dependent on other capitalists to fund his enterprises.
Incorrect. Other capitalists fund his enterprises of their own free will. He would not have large enterprises if there wasn't confidence in his abilities.
It could be argued the other capitalists are dependent on Trump. If there were better places to invest, they would put their money there. They are apparently dependent on Trump to make the kind of returns they desire.
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Incorrect. Other capitalists fund his enterprises of their own free will. He would not have large enterprises if there wasn't confidence in his abilities.
It could be argued the other capitalists are dependent on Trump. If there were better places to invest, they would put their money there. They are apparently dependent on Trump to make the kind of returns they desire.
Are you growing Arctic Kush this year?
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Incorrect. Other capitalists fund his enterprises of their own free will. He would not have large enterprises if there wasn't confidence in his abilities.
It could be argued the other capitalists are dependent on Trump. If there were better places to invest, they would put their money there. They are apparently dependent on Trump to make the kind of returns they desire.
I'm not incorrect. What you say above is arguably true but it remains true that Trump is dependent upon the willing participation of other capitalists in his various enterprises. History has shown their confidence to have been misplaced to put it mildly.

Trump emphatically doesn't "stand on his own". Far from it.
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About this RW meme that the Clinton Global Initiative is in any way disreputable, here's the latest load of bullcrap.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politi...-cheryl-mills/

Yeah, knuckledraggers. Cheryl volunteered her time and paid her own way from DC to NY to interview some job prospects for CGI.
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CGI is an A rated charity who spends 88% of it's income on programs to help poor people. https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings...foundation/478
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Whether Hillary is "owned by big biz" is a debatable point.
Not to me.

She is owned, period.


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What's inarguable is the fact that her opponent is big business.
That makes him beholden to one big business, Trump, Inc.

Hillary on the other hand is beholden to a plethora of big businesses.


Do you know what a plethora is?

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