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11-27-2015, 12:10 PM
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due to her religious beliefs my grandma (RIP) was a die hard republican, I have a pretty good idea that today she would be leaning a bit left to avoid this A-hole!
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11-27-2015, 12:38 PM
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I have no doubt that Bush was incompetent.
But it went beyond that.
He also had a very evil agenda, or his handlers did. My theory about him is that he was installed in the Presidency because he could be easily manipulated by the powerful people that put him there.
Very early on, right after the fall of Iraq, in April of 2003 the Neocons started making noises about going into Syria next. I have no doubt the agenda they had was to topple one regime after another and install their own puppets in order to control of the entire Middle East. What they didn't count on was the post Saddam resistance that sprang up. So with regard to their agenda in the Middle East, they failed miserably.
However they had smashing success with their economic agenda in that massive amounts of wealth was transferred from the poor and middle class to the rich.
Anyway, thats the way I see it.
Quite frankly I consider these so called moderate establishment Republicans to be far more dangerous than someone like Trump. Because they are far more likely to be able to advance their agendas. I don't see Trump as electable at all. You can see evidence of this just by the way the establishment Republicans are so vehemently opposing him. They know that he will be poison to their chances in the general election and they are terrified of that.
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Ahh, I see. This means, that Trump prevents us of an actual political disaster, because the chances for the Reps in the next presidental election are zero, just because Trump is a cosmic Zero.
Sometimes it is not easy to notice the positive aspect in the negative one.
Trump über alles!
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11-27-2015, 12:56 PM
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Ahh, I see. This means, that Trump prevents us of an actual political disaster, because the chances for the Reps in the next presidental election are zero, just because Trump is a cosmic Zero.
Sometimes it is not easy to notice the positive aspect in the negative one.
Trump über alles! 
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That's the way I'm looking at it.
But, I could be wrong.
You Germans seem like nice people.
You don't seem to have near as many dickheads as we have.
And yet Hitler was able to get into power.
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11-27-2015, 05:01 PM
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11-27-2015, 05:34 PM
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According to Infowars, the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary was a hoax, FEMA is setting up concentration camps and Andrew Breitbart was assassinated to prevent the release of damaging information about Barack Obama.
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So?
What's your point?
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11-28-2015, 10:12 AM
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...ive-it-s-alive
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Is Trump really too anti-immigrant for the 21st century GOP? Or too hostile to Muslims in the US and abroad? Or has he broken with the party in pushing caricatures of black criminals either threatening the safety of ordinary Americans or mobilizing through voter fraud to take away the stuff earned by middle class white people?
It's not too much to say that there's nothing Trump has said in recent weeks that you couldn't hear any given Monday on the Rush Limbaugh Show, from various backbench House conservatives or a million other places in conservative media. If you pay attention to any of these three fronts, you know this. These are the same themes, enemies, and swear lines that have run right at the water line of conservative politics for years.
What Trump has done - I suspect more intuitively than with a conscious strategy or plan - is to package them all together and strip away the window dressing which has allowed this menu of resentment to both stoke base conservative anger and appeal to more respectable conservative elites without creating channel conflict between the two.
This is no more than the monster which Republican elites created and used to marvelous effect. Only now it appears to be in the process of slipping its leash and devouring its creators rather than uneasily or crankily serving it.
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11-28-2015, 10:30 AM
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There it is for what it is, the ugly American candidate for the ugly American constituency.
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11-28-2015, 10:32 AM
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It appears that the Republicans have a rabid pitbull by the ears and they dare not let go.
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11-28-2015, 11:45 AM
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This goes along with what Kathleen Parker was saying. Trump isn't "sui generis" (self-created) but the creature of the American far right. What's most frightening in all of this is the fact that the American far right has total control of the political and cultural discourse here. This doesn't mean that most Americans subscribe to the right wing agenda but that all of us who talk about culture and politics at all are completely occupied with debating that agenda.
This is very, very bad because the debate legitimizes ideas that ought to be laughed out of the room. It also puts out there these very destructive ideas that resonate with the unthinking and inherently fearful among us. They internalize the right wing message and fold it into their consciousness because it gives them easy, though false, rationalizations for the way they feel.
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