Hillary For President

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Fact: She handled all of her official State email on a private server in contradiction to administration policy/regulations.

Fact: She mishandled classified information.

Fact: She deleted information while it was the subject of a FOIA lawsuit and a congressional inquiry.

If this doesn't concern you, fine. It concerns me, particularly if Biden doesn't step in. This election is the Democrat's to lose, and Hillary might be the vehicle for such an unfortunate result.

You are only right on the first point. And Obama did not fire her.

Your second and third points are total bullshit.

even Scarborough knows this is going no where. He sounds rather sad at times.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by icenine

They have the server. They have the emails.

It is just a matter of reading them. There is nothing there.

Your fantasy that Hillary is going to drop out is just that...a fantasy.

I will repost this email the morning after the election just to rub it in once Hillary wins in a landslide against Trump or Carson.

Wrong. I don't have fantasies about her. I believe that she should drop out since she is a lousy candidate for President. Proof? She could not beat Obama, virtually inexperienced/unknown in the 2008 primaries. Why? People trusted Obama more than they did Hillary. Why? That's your problem to figure out.

Want an example of why people like me do not trust her? She should have simply handed over the server when this case broke if she truly believed that she had not broken any laws. She dragged it out and now she is in a big mess of her own making and dragging the party down with her. She is now a toxic candidate.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

You are only right on the first point. And Obama did not fire her.

Your second and third points are total bullshit.

even Scarborough knows this is going no where. He sounds rather sad at times.

My point on a FOIA lawsuit was indeed incorrect. There are 35 of them.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-...-emails-213228

As to the point of mishandling classified material, it has yet to be fully determined the extent of her infractions. However, I'm having a hard time believing that she didn't send, receive or store any classified information on the only email account she had for 4 years at State. Your ideology may help you to believe it. Mine doesn't.

What's with your fixation with Scarborough and Morning Joe? I watch it occasionally while on my exercise bike in the morning, but only if ESPN, the History Channel or the Travel Channel don't have something good on. Mika is cute though.

[icenine]

Obama was just not any candidate.

If someone as enlightened as myself is going to vote for Hillary then that is proof there are millions more like me.

Have a nice day.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

My point on a FOIA lawsuit was indeed incorrect. There are 35 of them.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-...-emails-213228

As to the point of mishandling classified material, it has yet to be fully determined the extent of her infractions. However, I'm having a hard time believing that she didn't send, receive or store any classified information on the only email account she had for 4 years at State. Your ideology may help you to believe it. Mine doesn't.

I think you misunderstanding requests for FOIA documents to support lawsuits. There are tons of FOIA requests everyday. And the State Department routinely classifies material so as not to comply with the FOIA requests. Hillary has nothing to do with that.

And if these are actual lawsuits against Hillary herself it is still after the fact of the "server discovery" (it was never hidden by the way)...just a bunch of bloggers and news sites wanting emails. BFD.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

I think you misunderstanding requests for FOIA documents to support lawsuits. There are tons of FOIA requests everyday. And the State Department routinely classifies material so as not to comply with the FOIA requests. Hillary has nothing to do with that.

And if these are actual lawsuits against Hillary herself it is still after the fact of the "server discovery" (it was never hidden by the way)...just a bunch of bloggers and news sites wanting emails. BFD.

Destroying government records prior to a prescribed amount of time elapsing is indeed against the law. In the meantime, the law requires such records to be maintained (and available for FOIA requests, subject to nine specific exemptions (one of which is classification)). However, Hillary claims that none of her emails were classified. Accordingly, none of her official emails could legally be destroyed (they would have been archived at State). And to say it's no BFD because it's only news sites wanting the records. That's pretty much the entire reason behind the FOIA.

It really doesn't matter if Hillary can squeak by without indictment. What matters is if her actions contribute to her being viewed as a dishonest and untrustworthy candidate. She may have crossed that threshold already.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Proof? She could not beat Obama, virtually inexperienced/unknown in the 2008 primaries. Why? People trusted Obama more than they did Hillary.

A lot of that had to do with the fact that 1/2 of all Democratic primary voters in the south are black and over the overwhelming majority of them went for Obama. Basically Hillary had the same problem in the 2008 primaries as Sander is facing now.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

A lot of that had to do with the fact that 1/2 of all Democratic primary voters in the south are black and over the overwhelming majority of them went for Obama. Basically Hillary had the same problem in the 2008 primaries as Sander is facing now.

She has a fundamental problem. Word trust follows her like the word sleaze follows Kim K. Not going to be easy to overcome that.

[4-2-7]

Wow that was pretty pathetic to read, icenine you are so ill informed it's a joke. Finn is not lying to you but your propaganda new rage is.

[Rajoo]

If you think 'icenine' is ill informed, that makes you an imbecile. How would you even know what there is to know dumbass? What you know is not worth knowing, so pissoff.