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Old 02-10-2015, 06:41 PM
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Typical bullshit from John.

The moment we start locking the ISIS folks in cages and burning them alive, I'll worry about being "deligitimized". Until then. let's recognize evil for what and who it is, and deal with it for what and who it is.

I'm sure that the ISIS crowd isn't posting messages on Political forums worrying about how they treated Kayla Mueller. Nor am I suggesting that we need to be like Jordan and go "eye for an eye" with ISIS either. But its seems like a damn shame that we dicked around with them for a year and incurred a dead hostage before finally recognizing they were at war with us and - maybe - responding to the threat that ISIS represents.
So, well over two thousand bombing missions is dicking around? Google Khobani, Syria and see some of the strides we've made against these rat bastards.
Sounds like you've got that Obama Derangement Syndrome pretty bad Mike. Write a letter to your rep in the house of turds and ask 'em why they can't get off the dime and vote on as authorization of military force. I'll bet the cons want it to be revenue neutral.

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Old 02-10-2015, 08:21 PM
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So, well over two thousand bombing missions is dicking around? Google Khobani, Syria and see some of the strides we've made against these rat bastards.
Sounds like you've got that Obama Derangement Syndrome pretty bad Mike. Write a letter to your rep in the house of turds and ask 'em why they can't get off the dime and vote on as authorization of military force. I'll bet the cons want it to be revenue neutral.
Yup, we're dicking around. You might want to cheer-lead for Obama on this by counting air strikes (I think your 2000 might be a bit high). The enemy is still advancing. Here's an interactive map that shows how ISIS is gaining control of additional territory in spite of coalition air strikes. See for yourself.

http://securitydata.newamerica.net/isis/analysis

It ain't about "derangement syndrome", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. Its about our results versus the enemy's. Right now they're advancing in spite of the coalition's efforts. I feat that this is what happens when you fight a war worrying about whom you might offend. However, I'm also hopeful that maybe we're coming to our senses and with the use of force request.
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Yup, we're dicking around. You might want to cheer-lead for Obama on this by counting air strikes (I think your 2000 might be a bit high). The enemy is still advancing. Here's an interactive map that shows how ISIS is gaining control of additional territory in spite of coalition air strikes. See for yourself.

http://securitydata.newamerica.net/isis/analysis

It ain't about "derangement syndrome", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. Its about our results versus the enemy's. Right now they're advancing in spite of the coalition's efforts. I feat that this is what happens when you fight a war worrying about whom you might offend. However, I'm also hopeful that maybe we're coming to our senses and with the use of force request.
Do you even read the links you post?

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Old 02-10-2015, 10:23 PM
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Do you even read the links you post?
Yes. Now only if you would. Yes, coalition / Pershminga forces have won several individual clashes with ISIS. But ISIS continues to expand the total area under its control in spite of the coalition air campaign. Some estimates suggest that their area of control has nearly doubled since the air strikes began. The map I linked to was probably a more conservative estimate of their gains.

BTW, The Pershminga bunch is probably less concerned about defeating ISIS than it is about using this conflict as an excuse to engage in a land grab.

http://www.newsweek.com/kurdish-land...baghdad-302303
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BTW, The Pershminga bunch is probably less concerned about defeating ISIS than it is about using this conflict as an excuse to engage in a land grab.\
Can't do the latter without accomplishing the former.

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Can't do the latter without accomplishing the former.

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Sure it can. And it looks like it is.
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