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Old 02-05-2015, 10:58 AM
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Plenty of Kurdish fighters who were promised financial and materiel support by old man Bush after the first Gulf War (and who were subsequently hung out to dry and left twisting in the wind by old man Bush and his people) were PKK.
You're mistaken. Again. You just make shit up to suit whatever narrative you're trying to push, don't you?

PKK is in Iraq, Iran, Syria and, primarily, Turkey and have been for years. We have never previously afforded them any assistance at all, directly or indirectly.

With respect to the aftermath of Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Liberation, we couldn't figure out who to back in Northern Iraq, the PUK under Jalal Talabani or the KDP under Masoud Barzani so, in a way, we backed them both, favoring Talabani for the presidency of Iraqi Kurdistan and Barzani for the Iraqi presidency. This way we kept the PUK and KDP more or less on our side and also kept them from fighting each other.

We have never assisted the PKK until the last 6 months or so. Our present aid is in the form of direct weapons drops to them on the battlefield, notably around Kobani. It's this aid which allowed the PKK to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and kick ISIS out.

Turkey, of course, is none too happy with us for arming the PKK. They're justifiably concerned about the PKK fighters bringing these arms home.

John

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Old 02-05-2015, 11:25 AM
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You're mistaken. Again. You just make shit up to suit whatever narrative you're trying to push, don't you?

PKK is in Iraq, Iran, Syria and, primarily, Turkey and have been for years. We have never previously afforded them any assistance at all, directly or indirectly.

With respect to the aftermath of Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Liberation, we couldn't figure out who to back in Northern Iraq, the PUK under Jalal Talabani or the KDP under Masoud Barzani so, in a way, we backed them both, favoring Talabani for the presidency of Iraqi Kurdistan and Barzani for the Iraqi presidency. This way we kept the PUK and KDP more or less on our side and also kept them from fighting each other.

We have never assisted the PKK until the last 6 months or so. Our present aid is in the form of direct weapons drops to them on the battlefield, notably around Kobani. It's this aid which allowed the PKK to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and kick ISIS out.

Turkey, of course, is none too happy with us for arming the PKK. They're justifiably concerned about the PKK fighters bringing these arms home.

John
I know all about PKK. I have a friend who was PKK, and who's been battling for permanent asylum in this country for 15 years now, because he was PKK. I'm gonna believe what he tells me, as opposed to an expert like you.

All I said was that when it comes to PKK and other Kurdish organizations in Turkey and in northern Iraq, the Bush administrations, both of them, used very convenient criteria for who was a terrorist and who was a freedom fighter.

I defy you to find a post of mine where I said this country ever gave direct support to any PKK. What I said was old man Bush promised support and reneged.

And I'm the one who makes shit up? Get an integrity transplant.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:51 AM
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Turkey, of course, is none too happy with us for arming the PKK. They're justifiably concerned about the PKK fighters bringing these arms home.

John
Why are they upset, are they afraid the Kurds might seize back their homeland?
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