Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by icenine

Ike there is no conjecture. He shot him down in the street after he was running away.
This "news release" is bullshit...it is the same story Wilson has told from day one. Wilson and the Saint Louis criminal justice system is just softening up the public for when they let Wilson off the hook for a homicide, perceived or not. Perhaps Wilson will not even have to fill out a post-shooting incident report. I have a feeling however he won't be in any patrol car for awhile, if ever.

See...with you guys there's no need for a hearing or a trial or anything. And you look askance at the Chinese. When I suspect you would be all for dealing with this in the same way they handle this sort of thing in China. Anybody who upsets the governmental apple cart in China gets the same outcome. Taken out behind the barn and shot in the head. No hearing, no trial, no appeal, no nothing.

So here's what we got right here on PC.org. We got an opinion and any action taken should be taken on our opinion. So much for due process...eh ice? I know...I know...Michael didn't get no due process. Yep. So maybe a little opinion driven tit for tat should be the new due process then.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

See...with you guys there's no need for a hearing or a trial or anything.

I'd be happy as a pig in shit if it goes to trial.

I doubt it will.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I'd be happy as a pig in shit if it goes to trial.

Me too.

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I doubt it will.

Time will tell.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

See...with you guys there's no need for a hearing or a trial or anything. And you look askance at the Chinese. When I suspect you would be all for dealing with this in the same way they handle this sort of thing in China. Anybody who upsets the governmental apple cart in China gets the same outcome. Taken out behind the barn and shot in the head. No hearing, no trial, no appeal, no nothing.

So here's what we got right here on PC.org. We got an opinion and any action taken should be taken on our opinion. So much for due process...eh ice? I know...I know...Michael didn't get no due process. Yep. So maybe a little opinion driven tit for tat should be the new due process then.

I am very suspicious about the circumstances of the final shooting that killed Wilson, and I've explicitly called for a trial. I have doubts about the ability of the grand jury process to provide adequate assurance of justice, in this case, if there is no indictment. But I explicitly said I'll be satisfied if there is a trial, whatever the outcome.

Can you point to a post on this board where anyone has called for Brown to be punished without a trial? I think not.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I am very suspicious about the circumstances of the final shooting that killed Wilson, and I've explicitly called for a trial. I have doubts about the ability of the grand jury process to provide adequate assurance of justice, in this case, if there is no indictment. But I explicitly said I'll be satisfied if there is a trial, whatever the outcome.

Can you point to a post on this board where anyone has called for Brown to be punished without a trial? I think not.

I'm so confused. Did you mean "Brown" where you said "Wilson" and Wilson where you said "Brown"? Brown's the dead guy and Wilson's the living breathing guy...right?

Anyway...yes...I think there's plenty of suggestions (none by you) that a trial isn't necessary to determine Darren Wilson's guilt. OK...OK...a trial has been called for. But it appears that the new blood evidence suggests to many that a trial would acquit Darren Wilson. And then what happens? Then what we have another 15 page thread on how the fix was in from the start.

It's beyond nuts. How many goddamn times are we gonna say the same shit to each other...over and over again.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

But it appears that the new blood evidence suggests to many that a trial would acquit Darren Wilson.

I don't see how this clears Wilson at all. If anything it makes the argument that Brown was charging Wilson even less credible. Why would anyone who had been shot, then run away, and then turn around and charge a loaded gun?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/18/justic...unt/index.html

FBI forensic tests showed the gun was fired twice in the car, with one bullet hitting Brown's arm while the second one missed, the newspaper said.

In addition to Wilson's uniform and gun, forensic tests found the teen's blood on the interior door panel of his car, The Times said.

His account did not include an explanation on why he shot at Brown even after they got out of the car, according to The Times. A preliminary autopsy showed the teen was shot at least six times, including twice in the head.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I'm so confused. Did you mean "Brown" where you said "Wilson" and Wilson where you said "Brown"? Brown's the dead guy and Wilson's the living breathing guy...right?

Anyway...yes...I think there's plenty of suggestions (none by you) that a trial isn't necessary to determine Darren Wilson's guilt. OK...OK...a trial has been called for. But it appears that the new blood evidence suggests to many that a trial would acquit Darren Wilson. And then what happens? Then what we have another 15 page thread on how the fix was in from the start.

It's beyond nuts. How many goddamn times are we gonna say the same shit to each other...over and over again.

I don't get you Ike. Why are you on the side of the Cops after having one bust your head open to the tune of 13 stitches just for shits and grins?

Is is some kind of weird variation of the Stockholm Syndrome?

Or are you like one of those battered women that keep going back with the guy that beats the shit out of them?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I don't get you Ike. Why are you on the side of the Cops after having one bust your head open to the tune of 13 stitches just for shits and grins?

Is is some kind of weird variation of the Stockholm Syndrome?

Or are you like one of those battered women that keep going back with the guy that beats the shit out of them?

I don't get you TJ. Why would you suggest I'm on the side of the coppers. The only side I'm on is identifying that we're beating a whole herd of dead horses on this fucking thing.

Do I really need to hear how a bullet went in the top of Mikey's head, down his neck, and lodged in his chest 35 times? No...I don't. Nobody does. Do I need to hear you bleating about how Darren Wilson is a murderer anymore? No TJ...I really don't. Darren Wilson is a murderer when a jury of his peers says he's a murderer.

We're pretty goddamn specific about what's murder and what ain't when it comes to conservatives calling a doc in a women's clinic a murderer. Maybe we oughta give Darren Wilson the same benefit...don'tcha think? Murder is a legal term. Darren Wilson shot and killed Michael Brown. He's not a murderer until he's found guilty of murder.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I don't get you TJ. Why would you suggest I'm on the side of the coppers. The only side I'm on is identifying that we're beating a whole herd of dead horses on this fucking thing.

Do I really need to hear how a bullet went in the top of Mikey's head, down his neck, and lodged in his chest 35 times? No...I don't. Nobody does. Do I need to hear you bleating about how Darren Wilson is a murderer anymore? No TJ...I really don't. Darren Wilson is a murderer when a jury of his peers says he's a murderer.

We're pretty goddamn specific about what's murder and what ain't when it comes to conservatives calling a doc in a women's clinic a murderer. Maybe we oughta give Darren Wilson the same benefit...don'tcha think? Murder is a legal term. Darren Wilson shot and killed Michael Brown. He's not a murderer until he's found guilty of murder.

What I am doing is offering an alternative to the narrative that the right wing, and a lot of the left is pushing. That Brown was a thug that got what was coming to him.

There are a number of posters here that have already exonerated Wilson on that basis. Any objections on your part to those that have already jumped to this conclusion are conspicuously absent.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

What I am doing is offering an alternative to the narrative that the right wing, and a lot of the left is pushing. That Brown was a thug that got what was coming to him.

There are a number of posters here that have already exonerated Wilson on that basis. Any objections on your part to those that have already jumped to this conclusion are conspicuously absent.

That part I bolded has surprised me, I admit. Live and learn.